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Sinameki Sarp 3/19/2021 3:57 PM
i hope we can fix
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NaychaDaGrate 3/20/2021 2:42 PM
Mawnin!
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TenderSausage 3/20/2021 3:45 PM
Oh hi there 🙂
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Gooodmorning everyone!
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Good afternoon
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Anyone stream league with streamlabs? my game seems to feel choppy and lose alot of frames when Im using stream labs
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SolderOtter 3/20/2021 10:29 PM
Well, picked this up for the home office. Digital mixer with WiFi and Ethernet, eight XLR/combo inputs with independent phantom power switching. This will definitely add an extra little something to my setup
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10:29 PM
Two in, two out to twelve in, four out is a great improvement.
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Hi all, just seen the reddit for this group, completely new to reddit in general tbh
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Welcome!
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How are we all?
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Pretty good. Heading to sleep soon 😴 . Good weekend for me. How are you?
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Well I hope you have a decent sleep! And yeah I'm great just taking 11 days of work myself since I've worked all the way through covid without holidays
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Haha, thank you. And sounds like you deserve more of a sleep than I do
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3 hours a night does me 😂
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Good morning everyone!
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Afternoon all
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TheMadVari 3/22/2021 3:46 PM
Time of Day Greeting
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TenderSausage 3/22/2021 3:59 PM
Merry time of day to you, as well
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Good noon
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twisted_taffy 3/24/2021 3:51 AM
hey howdy yall
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iiWESTMYSTER 3/24/2021 1:44 PM
Good Afternoon you beautiful people, how are we all?
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It’s been a great morning, myster
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HolyBungholio 3/24/2021 2:48 PM
Not too bad! How about yourself? @iiWESTMYSTER
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HolyBungholio
Not too bad! How about yourself? @iiWESTMYSTER
iiWESTMYSTER 3/24/2021 2:59 PM
Good to hear! yeah im good thank you!!
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TheMadVari 3/24/2021 3:25 PM
Living someones dream
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I kickstarted a game called Jitsu Squad, and now my Twitch mascot is gonna be in the game as graffiti.
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Quick question, who is using audio interfaces vs. mixers?
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I have a scarlette 2i2 for my mic, but I find having to use adobe audition, as well as voicemeeter to be annoying and voicemeeter isnt all that reliable.
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Should I switch to something like the behringer q802? Or still use my Scarlette 2i2 and just hook it up to another mixer
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Good morning everyone
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Kylo
Quick question, who is using audio interfaces vs. mixers?
I just use a GoXLR, kinda does everything for me.
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 1:53 PM
@Kylo Are you using audition as part of your stream? (edited)
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Yeah I am
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Audition isn't too bad, just voicemeeter and the virtual cables suck
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:19 PM
@Kylo Why are you using Audition?
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For a few things like compression and hard limiters
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Very basic stuff
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:22 PM
All of that can be done either in OBS or Voicemeeter
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Having Audition in the chain might be causing issues
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Plus, Audition is notoriously reousource-heavy...
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Well no, every now and then voicemeeter kicks the bucket even when audition isnt running
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:23 PM
It has a button to restart the audio engine for that reason
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But I take your point about the resource usage
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And one less item in the chain is always better
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:24 PM
I'd encourage you to see if there's a way to remove Audition from the chain and see if you can sort out the issues from there. The 2i2 is a great interface, and I don't see any reason why a combo of that and Voicemeeter/OBS shouldn't be enough.
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However, your original question was eluding to using a physical interface like a GoXLR or a physical mixer
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If it helps, you could use macro keys and bind them in Voicemeeter
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then you could use your current keyboard, a spare keyboard, a Stream Deck, Launchpad, or a variety of devices.
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I'll try it out
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I would also just like to be able to remove the virtual cables etc. and just have more robust hardware solution but not sure if it is worth it
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:28 PM
VBAN is certainly not perfect. I've found that there are a couple tricks
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1. Set static IPs on all your devices
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2. Save your settings, and have them load on boot
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3. Save your VBAN settings seperate from your main VM settings
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4. Set only high-priority channels to "Optimal", leave the rest at a lower bandwidth
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5. Have a decent router capable of running 50mb/s throughput on 3+ devices simultaneously (this is a tricky one)
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Yeah I pretty much have all of that
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:41 PM
@Chorazin Have you looked at this mic yet? I'm thinking about testing it: https://www.presonus.com/products/Revelator
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TenderSausage
@Chorazin Have you looked at this mic yet? I'm thinking about testing it: https://www.presonus.com/products/Revelator
USB isn't for me. 🙂
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:44 PM
I know, but I know you share my curiousity for tech stuff 🙂
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So with voicemeeter I can do most of the compression and equalization, but the noise reduction - does it have that? Sound is much cleaner coming out of audition
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TenderSausage
I know, but I know you share my curiousity for tech stuff 🙂
Oh I totally do, but now USB Mics are basically dead to me as I have the GoXLR.
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 3:47 PM
I guess I'll have to be the USB guy. Oh darn...
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I tried usb
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Not too bad (edited)
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Some of em
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But even the shure sm58 sounds better than them and that mic is cheap as hell
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:34 PM
@Kylo The SM58 ($109) is a fine microphone, the industry standard for live vocal mics since forever. However, I don't agree with your sentence that it's cheap as hell, or that it sounds better that USB mics. The signal from an SM58 still needs to be processed to give you a full, rich tone, so we're talking about at least a preamp and a few other components. And I can assure you my Yeti X sounds better than an SM58. USB Mics have a place, and there are many with pretty robust microphone hardware that get nerfed by shitty software, drivers, etc. This is where I agree with you that XLRs provide the most straight-forward setup and functionality, along with a much higher ceiling with regard to audio quality, but it requires a lot of knowledge with using live/recording hardware and the analog signal chain. (edited)
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Yeah I have a cloud lifter and scarlette 2i2 (edited)
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Nice thing with sm58 is they are bulletproof and you can get a second hand one from B&H for like $70
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I went with the sm58 because I wanted a sm7b - but $400 for my mic RN was a waste
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And the SM58 sounds pretty good with a preamp
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All in all it cost me around $300 - but I shopped around and got major discounts
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Given my space, condenser mics would be a nightmare - there is ambient noise which I cant really block out. So a dynamic was a lot easier to use
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The signal chain isnt that complex either, mic -> pre-amp -> audio interface -> PC
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Just gotta make sure you got that phantom power
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:47 PM
If you mic needs it.
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The SM58 doesn't require it
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The cloud lifter (preamp) does (edited)
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:48 PM
But that's not the SM58. That's the point I'm making
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You can use the sm58 without the pre-amp yes, but it wont sound good
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As you say
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:49 PM
No
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That's factually wrong
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The SB58 has no electronics to benefit from phantom power
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supplying the cloudlifter phantom is where you're seeing the benefit
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The mic itself doesnt need 48v yes
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:49 PM
So what are you saying? (edited)
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We're saying the same thing
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:50 PM
Well, I'm saying your signal chain is more complex because, as you pointed out, there's a cloud lifter and phantom power involved
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:50 PM
So we're not saying the same thing
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But it isnt that complex imo
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:50 PM
Sure, because you're experienced with the hardware
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Haha no
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:51 PM
Okay, I'm wrong
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No I mean
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It is more complex (edited)
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Definitely
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I just dont think it is that complex
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I watched a few videos and did my research
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:51 PM
Okay, we disagree and that's okay
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I think a USB in and Headphones out is as simple as it gets (edited)
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Well yes of course
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Plug and play
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I just dont think we should say it is overly complex. The info is pretty easy to find and well documented
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That's all
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:53 PM
Like I said, you're familiar with the hardware
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Well yeah, I did do a lot of research
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:53 PM
You did research, invested time, and familiarized yourself with the setup requirements
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I guess Im just that way with things when I set them up
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:54 PM
I think you're more adept at this stuff than you're giving yourself credit for. It's pretty complicated, otherwise everyone would be doing it that way.
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But I also like learning about this stuff, sound stuff still confuses the hell out of me
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:55 PM
(budget aside) (edited)
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Haha thanks
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But like mixing of audio and stuff still confounds me
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:55 PM
I'm convinced I'll never be fully 100% confident in mixing
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Now if budget wasnt an issue I'd kill for a nice mirrorless setup for the cam with a good lens
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:56 PM
If you need a recommendation, the a6400 is baller
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Im convinced I'll never be at 10% lmao
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:56 PM
I run that into a Camlink 4K, works flawlessly
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But, budget
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Yeah I was looking at those
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But I'll only get that if streaming pays for it
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:57 PM
Wise
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My setup rn works I suppose
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Using a go-pro into a camlink
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😂
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:58 PM
I was very lucky to have some spare cash lying around, and I wanted to upgrade my Canon 60D anyway
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Kylo
Using a go-pro into a camlink
TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:58 PM
Totally a good route to go. The GoPro's ISO flexibility is nice (edited)
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I did have a DSLR - but I sold that ages ago
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Well, not even a real go pro, the best of the off brand ones. The dynamic range could be better but otherwise not too bad
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 4:59 PM
Does yours overheat? I had an issue with my GoPro Hero 2 Black just quitting from heat.
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It seems fine, I've even forgot it on over night
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It gets hot, but it doesnt quit
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I just take the battery out to prevent it shortening the lifespan
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 5:00 PM
I suppose I should mention I was trying to push the 2K30 from a 10-year-old camera
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Only thing I am really sad about is depth of field
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Haha
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I just use 1080 30
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As my capture card only does that anyway
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And my streams arent really heavy on the cam
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I actually started out using my phone camera
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Worked pretty well
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But it drained more power than it gained while charging - as my phone has some issue with it's fast charge
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Want to see what it looks like and give me some tips?
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Im in the streaming channel
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@TenderSausage
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How’s everyone’s afternoon?
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Haha good, how is it with you?
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Kylo
@TenderSausage
TenderSausage 3/25/2021 5:18 PM
Stuck in a work meeting
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Pretty ok afternoon here, the weather is gorgeous so all the windows are open. I keep staring at my wall in between sessions of getting stuff done at work thinking how I want to put these up 🤔
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TenderSausage 3/25/2021 7:25 PM
Are they heavy? Would some 3M Command strips work?
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Or are you talking about the layout?
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Just talking about the layout. 🙂
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Hello all 🤘
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TenderSausage 3/26/2021 4:29 AM
The Falcon 9 second stage from the Mar 4 Starlink launch failed to make a deorbit burn and is now reentering after 22 days in orbit. Its reentry was observed from the Seattle area at about 0400 UTC Mar 26.
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Like, it shook the walls! It was a huge shower. I thought it was a meteorite at first
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damn, I guess that's what those photos of "something exploding" I've been seeing are
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Look what I just got today !! So excited to try it out tonight !
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Kellef
Look what I just got today !! So excited to try it out tonight !
Nice!!
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Deleted User 3/26/2021 8:44 PM
Is there any decent free PC streaming app to stream (without audio) on YT
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TenderSausage 3/26/2021 8:49 PM
@Deleted User Define "decent"?
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Deleted User 3/26/2021 8:50 PM
Well, 720p
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TenderSausage 3/26/2021 8:51 PM
OBS, SLOBS...
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If your only requirements are 720p and being able to stream to YouTube, I believe you can even use YouTube's "Go Live" feature, which runs in a browser.
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Do you have any other more specific requirements, @Deleted User?
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Deleted User 3/26/2021 8:58 PM
Nope
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It’s worked perfect OBS has, thank yall, and I might see yall in the stream of motorsport manager tomorrow if I do stream
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Anyone able to give me some feedback on my setup for streaming, just want to get feedback on my audio, lights etc.
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TenderSausage 3/27/2021 6:58 PM
Sure
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twisted_taffy 3/28/2021 7:29 PM
hey hows everyone doing today
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just finished up a mario kart stream
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gonna post a clip later, it was so funny
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TheMadVari 3/28/2021 8:28 PM
I had my first hype train last night
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Pretty cool to se
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You're gonna want to keep that in the promotion channel
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Imagine announcing their streams in here like this is their own community. Also, good day everyone! (edited)
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g'day chaps~ This day we are all r/streaming (aka, we are all Misio)
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Is it today? Is it Misio's birthday?
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Oh. I actually don't know. I was attempting to express how this is a community of many people that Misio setup in a very interesting way. Kinda to add to what you were saying. I think I botched it
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You didn't botch it lol
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I was just proposing we make today Misio's second yearly birthday (out of four)
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I'm for it! Happy birthday Misio 🎈 🍰
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Happy birthday @Misio!! (edited)
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I'll take another Birthday, whatcha getting me? 😄 (edited)
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Thercio
Happy birthday @Misio!! (edited)
It’s his birthday dance
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Thercio
Happy birthday @Misio!! (edited)
LucaLynxDrive 3/29/2021 6:51 PM
wtf is that gif
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Art
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That sexy Thanos dance..... Nothing can top that
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He's got moves, that's for sure!
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its a 11/10
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Hey all you fantastic people I hope you have/had a great day
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I’m pretty good, so far
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Hope you’ve had a good day, as well
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lol just 24 hour recoup time Been at work since six am :/ got off the stream at 3am like a dummy
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5:30 more hours at work tho then can go home
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almost 2 avg viewers, less go
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hi all
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new to this disccord
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anyone wanna join to play
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Marmaduck
almost 2 avg viewers, less go
ive just started same numbers
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Getting discovered on twitch is unlikely
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worth a try
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TenderSausage 4/1/2021 4:51 PM
@pokerbal Review #old-rules before your next post please.
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sorry
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will not do again
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pokerbal
will not do again
TenderSausage 4/1/2021 4:59 PM
Many thanks! Nothing personal, just trying to keep the channels on point. (edited)
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Marmaduck 4/2/2021 3:28 PM
So I tweeted about my schedule for today, and was wondering where I can post it in here, since I’m saying that chat can join a couple of my streams
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Marmaduck 4/2/2021 3:54 PM
Alright, I’ll take responsibility and post it in #looking-for-group
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Marmaduck 4/2/2021 4:08 PM
yes
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Yea looking for and promotions you could probably have put in both You can always @ me if you have a question and if I’m not asleep/working I can get to it semi quick At work now but it’s slow
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Marmaduck 4/3/2021 4:07 AM
Gonna go to bed, but I hope everyone has a great Easter
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SuperRetro64DS 4/3/2021 11:59 PM
Anyone got advice for someone starting out? I've got a capture card coming in tomorrow and I'm streaming MH Rise, I plan on streaming all week every week for six hours.
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SuperRetro64DS
Anyone got advice for someone starting out? I've got a capture card coming in tomorrow and I'm streaming MH Rise, I plan on streaming all week every week for six hours.
Kill Thieves Glacier 4/4/2021 1:17 AM
Sounds like you have a decent concept. Just stay positive and keep talking all the time!!
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BloodOrange 4/4/2021 2:54 AM
Hey do any of yall know how people stream from their 3DS/Switch to computer? I want to do something like that but idk how they do it
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For switch you just plug in the doc and use a cap card
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I imagine there is a 3ds one too but I haven’t looked into it yet for 3ds (don’t own one)
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BloodOrange
Hey do any of yall know how people stream from their 3DS/Switch to computer? I want to do something like that but idk how they do it
Kill Thieves Glacier 4/4/2021 9:16 AM
For the DS it’s a little more complicated. I’d watch a YouTube vid if I were you
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BloodOrange
Hey do any of yall know how people stream from their 3DS/Switch to computer? I want to do something like that but idk how they do it
SuperRetro64DS 4/4/2021 10:32 AM
If you've got a gaming PC, look into using something like Citra. There's some conceptual stuff on New 3DS Homebrew like streaming your gameplay footage to PC, but it's really laggy and doesn't usually pick up anything past 15 FPS. Most 3DS capture card makers are out of business rn, but you may still be able to find one or someone on eBay
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Hey guys, I'm looking for some games I can stream from either game pass, steam or like basic download games that dont take much cpu power so I can stream them on my channel. Please lmk if you have any ideas!
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Ash<3
Hey guys, I'm looking for some games I can stream from either game pass, steam or like basic download games that dont take much cpu power so I can stream them on my channel. Please lmk if you have any ideas!
SuperRetro64DS 4/4/2021 4:16 PM
Depends on how you want to go about it. If you're looking to catch new viewers, try playing a game like Outriders that just came out, it's on GamePass. You could also try something like Ark over the course of a few streams and see if it'd stick. Just try out multiple games and see what'd stick with you and the viewers, you gotta test your waters until you get something real good going!
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BloodOrange 4/4/2021 5:42 PM
Thanks y’all!
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SuperRetro64DS 4/4/2021 7:33 PM
Hey guys
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Hello
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Deleted User 4/5/2021 1:28 AM
yello
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maaliktomtom 4/5/2021 10:44 AM
Hey
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OneAlphaHelix 4/5/2021 2:13 PM
How are y’all’s streams going?
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TenderSausage 4/5/2021 2:58 PM
getting ready to reboot here in April
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took 3 months off
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Marmaduck 4/5/2021 3:14 PM
Haven’t gotten 3 a gray viewers yet, but almost to 60 followers
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OneAlphaHelix 4/5/2021 4:37 PM
Awesome. Best of luck you guys
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OneAlphaHelix
Awesome. Best of luck you guys
Marmaduck 4/5/2021 6:02 PM
Thanks, you too
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Marmaduck
Haven’t gotten 3 a gray viewers yet, but almost to 60 followers
the average viewers is the hardest part honestly
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how do i get my stream off the ground
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oops
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sorry
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i'm luka nice to meet you, i'll read the instructions
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Playing niche game categories helps a lot I think.
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Like a game with an active subreddit that averages a few hundred viewers. At least for discovery on Twitch. 🤔
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I think it's because there are passionate communities out there that are really don't get a lot of people to watch. People who want to share their knowledge, facts, and things they've done with someone else playing a not-so-popular game.
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Downside though: you might start building an audience that won't enjoy your other content. (edited)
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eCrow
Playing niche game categories helps a lot I think.
do you have suggestions on games?
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I wouldn’t play a niche game just to try to get viewers, if you’re not enjoying the game then content won’t be as good so people won’t stick around.
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You're right. If you can't enjoy it, probably not worth it. Definitely okay to play in a niche game category with the intention for viewers though. Providing entertainment to people who are looking for it is an important aspect to streaming I think. (edited)
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do you have suggestions on games?
https://sullygnome.com/games/peakviewers might be a good place to start seeing viewers vs channel ratios. See if there's a game that peeks your interest, then see if there are reddit communities out there for it and how active it is. Also like @Mulc suggests, try playing the game and see if you'd even want to produce an awesome stream with it. (edited)
Statistics for games with the largest peak viewers on Twitch in the past 7 days
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Mulc
I wouldn’t play a niche game just to try to get viewers, if you’re not enjoying the game then content won’t be as good so people won’t stick around.
You are absolutely right. While it's true that you may grow faster by streaming into niche categories, you may not be able to hold the attention of the viewers that you get from doing things that you can't convey to them that you enjoy.
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SullyGnome is an excellent tool for streamers to evaluate their performance and to plan out what do they wanna do, but I highly suggest using it to improve and define your own goals for your channel - streaming what you enjoy that can also help you grow a little faster when you feel it's necessary for you at the moment.
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It's similar to my opinion on reaching "Affiliate" and "Partner" on Twitch. These are just "goals" that were set to increase profitability for Twitch/Amazon, not because they actually help our channel's growth in any positive way. It's purely a monetization option, and you can always set up a donation link through Streamlabs/StreamElements, if that is what you are after.
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TenderSausage 4/7/2021 1:58 PM
Paypal and Patreon pay out better than Twitch ever does
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@Thercio is speaking hot truth
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Yep. Donations through Streamlabs/StreamElements are usually setup through PayPal, but Patreon would be the better option for a content creator that can generate enough content that your most loyal viewers may want to get (example: early access to videos, artwork giveaways, custom-made content, participation on streams, etc)
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TenderSausage 4/7/2021 2:02 PM
Honestly, you just talking about the options probably helps a lot of people @Thercio
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Some people just don't know where to start. Thanks for sharing your wisdom 🙂
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TenderSausage 4/7/2021 2:03 PM
I was unaware of SullyGnome, and now that's going to play a big part in my stream planning
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I'm glad to be able to help, however I can.
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Thercio
You are absolutely right. While it's true that you may grow faster by streaming into niche categories, you may not be able to hold the attention of the viewers that you get from doing things that you can't convey to them that you enjoy.
yeah і wasnt super into the idea since im mostly а minecraft person but і do want to try and find games im into that arent minecraft yknow
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I think people need to get platform goals (Affiliate/Partner) out of their planning as soon as possible, so that they don't see it as "the goal" for their channels. Each streamer has their own branding (around themselves), so we gotta find the goals that better suit what we do! Grinding for platform goals only helps the platform, you are just making your content elegible to become another income source for them. (edited)
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Thercio
I think people need to get platform goals (Affiliate/Partner) out of their planning as soon as possible, so that they don't see it as "the goal" for their channels. Each streamer has their own branding (around themselves), so we gotta find the goals that better suit what we do! Grinding for platform goals only helps the platform, you are just making your content elegible to become another income source for them. (edited)
TenderSausage 4/7/2021 2:08 PM
I agree with you 100%. I removed Affiliate/Partner from my plan. The money incentive for being an Affiliate isn't worth what you give up.
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My plan now is to use Restream to grow organically on FB Gaming, YT Live, and Twitch, maybe branch to LinkedIn if I can secure LI Live. (edited)
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Not play any affiliate games until it makes sense to do so
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yeah і wasnt super into the idea since im mostly а minecraft person but і do want to try and find games im into that arent minecraft yknow
I understand that perfectly. The game is not the content on your channel, you are. Your goal should be creating (and growing) your community around your channel's branding, which is centered around your content = you, doing the things that you enjoy, creating a positive influence on your viewers
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Thercio
I understand that perfectly. The game is not the content on your channel, you are. Your goal should be creating (and growing) your community around your channel's branding, which is centered around your content = you, doing the things that you enjoy, creating a positive influence on your viewers
yes :D
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TenderSausage
Not play any affiliate games until it makes sense to do so
Yeah! That's an awesome plan. Affiliate gives you some not-entirely-monetized tools that you can use, like channel points. You just gotta make them fit what you want for your channel, not the opposite
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Thercio
Yeah! That's an awesome plan. Affiliate gives you some not-entirely-monetized tools that you can use, like channel points. You just gotta make them fit what you want for your channel, not the opposite
TenderSausage 4/7/2021 2:14 PM
100% this. There are a lot of streamers who are a slave to the platform. We need to be creative and make the platforms work better for us. I'll take losing channel points to be able to chat across three platforms simultaneously.
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I'm more concerned about meeting people where they live, and not forcing them to adopt Twitch (even though it's my preferred platform right now)
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100% this. There are a lot of streamers who are a slave to the platform. We need to be creative and make the platforms work better for us. I'll take losing channel points to be able to chat across three platforms simultaneously.
Yeah. "Platform slavering" (for a lack of a better term) is what Twitch does to keep people from generating revenue on other platforms, and not only on theirs (where they can take their fat cut). Twitch basically wants to force you, force your viewers to move to their platform. May sound like a good business decision, but it actually turns out to be anti-consumer friendly for the viewers. Also considering that organic discoverability on Twitch is non-existant until you reach something like 25~100 viewers on your channel (which at this point, realistically, you would be amongst the 0,01% of streamers there), streaming to multiple platforms and forming a much higher viewership would be much more valuable.
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Instead of "becoming a big Twitch Streamer", the goal should be "becoming a good content creator".
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TenderSausage 4/7/2021 2:24 PM
Yep. Content is king, the platform just delivers it.
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TheNicestWolf 4/7/2021 2:24 PM
That's my goal.
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Can't have all the eggs in a single basket, right?
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TheNicestWolf 4/7/2021 2:25 PM
I just want to have fun and talk to people. I dont even care if it makes any money.
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TheNicestWolf
I just want to have fun and talk to people. I dont even care if it makes any money.
That, with constant research on how to improve your content delivery, being open minded to new possibilities and persisting on your own goals and ideas (as in, not just quitting when you don't reach your goals as quick as you thought you would, and then actually going back to the research phase) is all that anyone needs to grow anywhere. (edited)
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Research, improvement, identifying flaws + getting new ideas (and continuing to create content) (edited)
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I agree. Improving your content through research is great and pursuing new possibilities with the goals you have in mind.
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While content is a key importance, I disagree with disregarding the platforms you provide your content on. It's important to understand their system. And it is difficult to manage multiple communities on a variety of platforms unless they integrate nicely. And they all are businesses like any other. Business greed is a whole other topic. Deliver your content on the platform. Understand the platform terms and how to work with them. Picking a platform is like a partnership. (edited)
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Wanting to grow on a platform or monetize are fine goals that help fund the great things you produce.
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I'm not one who judges someone for wanting to make money or find an audience that will enjoy watching their content, as long as it's healthy.
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Thercio
That, with constant research on how to improve your content delivery, being open minded to new possibilities and persisting on your own goals and ideas (as in, not just quitting when you don't reach your goals as quick as you thought you would, and then actually going back to the research phase) is all that anyone needs to grow anywhere. (edited)
How would you even do the research phase? lmao
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How would you even do the research phase? lmao
What's your specific situation right now? • Do you have a problem that you need to fix on your stream? (Example: webcam settings not saving after your reboot/turn off your PC) • Something you wanna improve on the technical side? (Example: mic audio picking up all sorts of noises, or your voice sounding "dull") • Got an Idea you wanna try out, but don't know how to do it? (Example: You wanna save space on your screen, while still wanting to show latest follower, latest subscriber, highest tip, follower goal, etc) • You want to display your content in a certain way to better show what you are doing? (Example: hosting a game tournament, and you need to show a scoreboard and other info) (edited)
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Ooooohhh, you meant like that
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I was just asking how research worked, because I thought you meant research on the creative side
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Rather than on the technical side
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Yeah, you gotta start with a "problem" you need to solve, then break it down into smaller problems, where you'll start to see your alternatives in how you can solve each one, then you'll get to the "solution". At this point you'll see if it does exactly what you needed, or if you have an even bolder idea that you want to try out for that same "solution", or something else entirely (maybe applying the same method to other "problems", or just improving other aspects of your stream)
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Yeah, I get that, I was just like "wait wouldn't creative research be just watching streams and taking notes" but I see what you mean now
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TheNicestWolf 4/7/2021 3:50 PM
I need research why streamlabs keeps resetting my audio so the game is always muted when I start stream. I also need to figure out how to get discord to be heard as well.
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I was just asking how research worked, because I thought you meant research on the creative side
The creative side is another thing altogether. Speaking from experience (as a graphic designer), you can't force creativity, you'll just get burned out fast (and get shitty results). You have to think not on how you can copy something that you saw on other streams, but how you would do it for yourself, making it fit what you need for your branding. How do you want your viewers to perceive this? Does it fit well with what you do with your channel right now, or would it look off? It's almost impossible to be 100% original, you'll always get inspiration from experience, from some already existing work. What you can do is "make it yours" - taking appearance, functionality and outcome/results to fit what you do and how you think. (edited)
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Yeah
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That's what I'm saying
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I need research why streamlabs keeps resetting my audio so the game is always muted when I start stream. I also need to figure out how to get discord to be heard as well.
That's a good starting point; from experience, check if your Streamlabs folder isn't tagged as "read only" in the properties, and that you are running it with admin privileges, it could help.
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okay so I use a facecam
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problem is that i have a very resting bitch face and its sometimes hard to keep an "expression" while concentrating or doing boring tasks
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even when im talking i have to actively think about smiling or acting in some way or another
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anyone have tips on how to improve this?
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I feel like my face is boring sometimes but I do enjoy using a facecam
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You could set a visual timer on screen to remind yourself. OR, hear me out, another cool solution could be to 1) Tape a feather right under your foot while streaming 2) setup a rotating fan to occasionally blow on the feather to tickle your foot.
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That's a good starting point; from experience, check if your Streamlabs folder isn't tagged as "read only" in the properties, and that you are running it with admin privileges, it could help.
TheNicestWolf 4/7/2021 5:23 PM
I'll try that out and see how that works. Thank you.
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TheMadVari 4/7/2021 7:38 PM
fuggin
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Morning everyone Hope the new month is treating you all well That growth is good And things are being learned
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Morning!
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Good so far!
11:31 AM
Except for Spotify pausing my songs out of nowhere on Chrome.
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That’s strange o.O At this point if tech works normal for a full day tho I’m baffled Glad things are going good amigo.
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It's being sketchy, so far, but I think it's getting back to normal
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I'm getting close to delivering some big projects, so I can finally get back to streaming
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TheMadVari 4/8/2021 1:27 PM
Besides allergies April’s ok
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Thercio
Except for Spotify pausing my songs out of nowhere on Chrome.
skybluecj 4/8/2021 1:43 PM
Had this issue on my phone
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Thercio
I'm getting close to delivering some big projects, so I can finally get back to streaming
I know how that feels. I never get any exciting big gigs though. Just things like "I need my next store article edited".
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Feemagie
I know how that feels. I never get any exciting big gigs though. Just things like "I need my next store article edited".
You never got any big gigs *so far. Eventually, they'll come.
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Luckily, all of my projects are streaming related, so I always keep getting new ideas both for my clients and for myself
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Thercio
Luckily, all of my projects are streaming related, so I always keep getting new ideas both for my clients and for myself
Oooh. That is much more exciting
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Is there something like antmedia.io enterprise ( 0.5 second video latency ) but open source?
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Is there something like antmedia.io enterprise ( 0.5 second video latency ) but open source?
TenderSausage 4/8/2021 9:07 PM
Are you asking for an enterprise-class, open-source media server?
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Besides allergies April’s ok
April’s are always the worse ones amigo xD
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I didn’t even know I would have them in Vegas until I moved here
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TheMadVari 4/8/2021 9:40 PM
My nose has not stop running. So for the next week I’m basically gonna be a mouth breather
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I just want low Latency rtmp
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I want to take something like an OBS stream and have it come out of something like a browser and be able to have relatively real time interaction between it
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The setup I did right now was OBS into an nginx server and then on the other side I had an OBS person streaming in the twitch that took my rtmp from nginx into their OBS now to twitch the delay for me to them was 8 seconds so by the time they replied we were out of sync of real time
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I stream stock trading so 8 seconds is a laughable delay
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If I can do that with something that's is r&t or something like it you know web RTC or hls or whatever that is I'm not sure
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Ant seems to be able to do it it can't be the only option
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Went and beat low rank of Monster Hunter Rise in one go. From character creation to beating Mag, in 11 hours 40ish minutes. 51% affinity at the end, for a 51% crit chance.
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Good morning everyone!
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TenderSausage 4/9/2021 1:05 PM
@kolie You could try to mess around with Red5, but aside from that, you might be looking for a custom RTMP solution. Most platforms have some kind of delay. https://www.red5pro.com/open-source/
We designed Red5 to be the best open-source streaming media solution ever created. Learn more about our resources and tools.
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If you don't have a host selected, it looks like you could stand one up on AWS for $0.16/hr runtime.
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WickedTurtle 4/11/2021 4:25 AM
Does anybody use OBS live? Thoughts on it vs. normal OBS?
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Hi
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Hello
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WickedTurtle
Does anybody use OBS live? Thoughts on it vs. normal OBS?
Isn't OBS Live just a plug-in from StreamElements that "hijacks" the default OBS Studio version? They do a relatively good job at what they do, but I find that plug-in more annoying than helpful. And it borks your OBS installation if you try to remove it.
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Also, hello there good folks
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Is there anyone here who streams WoW? I have a small yet important question : is there a way to hide real life friends from social interface? It kinda sucks when I click O to send someone a message and literally everyone can see the REAL names of my friends at that interface
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Hello all! Im looking for recommendations for someone to hire to customize/setup a stream! Thank you in advance! Please dm
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If this is the wrong channel let me know and i will put in on the right one
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WickedTurtle 4/12/2021 3:37 AM
@frostydog DM'd you
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Rule of thumb: Never give out a moderator role to anyone who asks for it. If you need a moderator, get either a friend or a loyal viewer to help you out. People who ask for it will only go on a power-trip and ruin the experience for your actual viewers and members of your community.
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Also, good day everyone
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TheMadVari 4/12/2021 5:31 PM
rip
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/12/2021 9:03 PM
Hey guys, I have a question: What sort of things do you do for community challenges?
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Thercio
Rule of thumb: Never give out a moderator role to anyone who asks for it. If you need a moderator, get either a friend or a loyal viewer to help you out. People who ask for it will only go on a power-trip and ruin the experience for your actual viewers and members of your community.
I genuinely can't believe they thought advertising that was acceptable. They're literally advertising that they CAN'T be trusted (edited)
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"I don't care who you are, I wanna mod your chat" is the worst possible pitch anyone could ever make.
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Good morning everyone!
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Hey gang, Yodi here, came to discuss a huge tech development that I’ve been pouring my time into trying to get a proper grounding so as to get some fresh light shed on it. https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/mpybfo/remote_livestreaming_rd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
1 vote and 1 comment so far on Reddit
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I made a more detailed post in the technology subreddit if anyone knows the mods there it’d be another really good place to discuss it
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Even most fiber optic connections available don’t provide enough upload speed to accommodate for 4K video with pro quality audio. A colt or cow, cellular on wheels or cellular on light truck could easily handle it remotely, yet VZW and at&t are hoarding the tech and have been for a decade
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TheMadVari 4/13/2021 1:44 PM
Mmm
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Honestly not surprised about the tech hoarding. I used to work with at&t, horrible company, especially if you know their past business tactics
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TheMadVari 4/13/2021 1:50 PM
Facts
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Corporate overlords are bad people
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Hey everyone I just came from reddit
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DoctuhStix 4/13/2021 6:26 PM
So I found many other businesses that have the colt and cow but they still are forced to come deploy them for VZW at&t and t mobile I think is the other one. So like they bring them out for them the cellular providers hook everything up and reel in the signal blast then they distribute it through the 5G network so they have control over its outbound signals too they’ve got a monopoly. I’m gonna continue digging. $40k to get one out for a job but fuuuuck it’d be worth it for the right events. They use em mainly for sports but I’m afraid they’re already sewing up the entertainment industry too so like I guess it really ain’t no way but to go in and fuck with one of em some way or another. I spent a whole week trying@to get ahold of VZW about it and they just don’t let anyone even edge in whatsoever.
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TheMadVari 4/14/2021 6:03 PM
Got my first ever stream payout
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Shit be wilding
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Congrats!
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TheMadVari
Got my first ever stream payout
Hey good work, I bet that's a nice feeling!
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Ye
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TheMadVari
Got my first ever stream payout
The first of many, my dude! Congrats!
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Thercio
The first of many, my dude! Congrats!
God I really hope so
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What I say is keep doing you, and you'll continue getting rewarded for what you create for your viewers
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Not just on the financial side, but you get what I mean (edited)
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Yeah I’ve enjoyed all ive done so far so imma keep it going for sure
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To the streamers that have their own discord communities, have you ever thought of using features like video calls and the more recent stage channels (pic below) to create community exclusive events outside of your streams?
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TenderSausage 4/15/2021 2:47 PM
@Thercio I'm looking into it
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I haven't implemented it because I don't feel like I know enough yet
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It's direct competition to Clubhouse
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A really cool feature, for sure
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As an example, I am admin on a server where people get together almost every night to participate in video calls while they play together (it started way before COVID), and it's very engaging for everyone participating in it. Another positive side is that people can practice their communication skills on camera with their friends in a more informal way, even if viewers are on the same call.
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No stream to worry about, just the interaction.
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For the stage channels, I haven't tried anything with it, but I imagine it would be awesome for doing AMAs/Q&A sessions in your server: people would be able to hear only you and the other authorized participants, while you read questions posted on a separate text channel (probably on "slow mode")
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TenderSausage 4/15/2021 2:51 PM
Yes! It would be really great, especially with controls for admitting people to the stage
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I haven't implemented it because I don't feel like I know enough yet
The way discord handles everything theses days, shouldn't be more complicated than adding permissions to certain channels for the roles you need (streamer/guest can enter and speak, everyone else can just listen/watch) (edited)
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TenderSausage 4/15/2021 2:52 PM
Yep
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It's just been one of those things I haven't gotten to
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Working on Restream.io first, getting the bugs resolved with the chat bots
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A stage channel would be really useful in this server, if one day we wanted to talk about certain themes in depth (some examples: "Which platform should I start streaming?", "What should I do to increase my average viewer ratio above 3?", "How can I grow my channel past X goal?")
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Gonna add it on #old-suggestions
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Thercio
Gonna add it on #old-suggestions
TenderSausage 4/15/2021 3:17 PM
A great idea. A good tool for the community admins.
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It seems very easy to control who speaks and give the audience turns to participate.
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TenderSausage 4/15/2021 3:19 PM
That's really cool
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It looks a lot like Clubhouse
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Just looked it up, its really similar. With the advantage that it's already included on Discord as just an extra channel
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So no need to go elsewhere to use it with our communities
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TenderSausage 4/15/2021 3:43 PM
Exactly. I'm super interested in this feature
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Thanks for bringing it up, @Thercio
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I'm always keeping an eye out for stuff like this 👍
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TenderSausage 4/15/2021 3:46 PM
I'd love to get involved in real growth-oriented conversations and tune in to hear other people's insights
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I use Clubhouse for that professionally, and it's been very positive.
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Hop into a conversation with Gary V or Daymond John and hear how they grew their visions into massive enterprises
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I'll get it on my phone, gonna see how people use it then find ways to replicate what works on Discord, when I get the opportunity to use it. Edit: I'm on their waitlist. (edited)
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It sounds great for doing a live recording of a podcast with an actual audience
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TenderSausage 4/15/2021 3:59 PM
@Thercio DM me your email, I'll get you in.
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Thank you!
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Deleted User 4/15/2021 4:42 PM
Yk vegan ribs are delicious but the hard part is hunting down the vegans
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You can always find vegans in Trader Joes
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How’s everyone doing
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Finna go to class, so it’s been ok
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The Final Boss 4/16/2021 3:13 AM
Hows it going?
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BlazeOrLukeAss 4/16/2021 3:19 AM
DOGE TO THE MOOOON
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Tickle Me Otter 4/16/2021 3:23 AM
anyone available to join a call to help me set up my pc and streamlabs? im having a lot of trouble figuring it out and need help. i can explain more in the call.
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The Final Boss 4/16/2021 3:26 AM
Hey what would be a good ring light if I have a lot of LED lights and LiFx in my room? I want to create a cyberpunk aesthetic
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Depends on how you intend to use the ringlight (specially considering what size can you use without compromising too much of your own space) and how you have setup your other lights.
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TheMadVari 4/16/2021 1:11 PM
Morning
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Morning
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Morning lads
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HolyBungholio 4/16/2021 6:29 PM
Good afternoon everyone!
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DeathFromKarma 4/16/2021 7:00 PM
Hi everybody
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killacamron86 4/16/2021 11:59 PM
Hows everyone doing
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The Final Boss 4/17/2021 3:31 AM
@Thercio this is my lighting setup currently
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Hey everyone how y’all doing?
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Doing alright today my dude how are you
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l4w1
Doing alright today my dude how are you
Pretty good just chilling tryna figure stuff out on Streamlabs
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I recommend stream elements to everyone but streamlabs is more beginner friendly
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Nice
Okok but like by any chance u know how to change the category to just chatting when ur boutta go live
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I don't use streamlabs but there should be a tab with your stream title, game and notification message. The game section is where you would set it to just chatting
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I don't use streamlabs but there should be a tab with your stream title, game and notification message. The game section is where you would set it to just chatting
Okok thank u so much
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hey
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still alive?
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Idk
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Sups??
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So this happened yesterday 😇
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Anyone else have their PC Discord client crashing once they open this channel? I think it's from the GIF above Edit: Did some research, and apparently there are gifs that can crash Discord, so posting something like this here could only be intentional. I blocked the user so that I could open this channel without crashing. (edited)
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So this happened yesterday 😇
Great work, keep growing dude. What was your last requirement that you met for affiliate? Was it the concurrent viewers?
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Thercio
Great work, keep growing dude. What was your last requirement that you met for affiliate? Was it the concurrent viewers?
Yup, the average views were by far the hardest. I’ve had the other requirements for a while now.
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Anyone else have their PC Discord client crashing once they open this channel? I think it's from the GIF above Edit: Did some research, and apparently there are gifs that can crash Discord, so posting something like this here could only be intentional. I blocked the user so that I could open this channel without crashing. (edited)
Thanks, I've deleted the gif
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Thank you!
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@Chorazin these are some good stats (from the last 30 days, from your channel's page on SullyGnome)
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:35 PM
Hey guys, I have a question - is there a maximum length allowed for a Twitch Highlight?
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@Chorazin these are some good stats (from the last 30 days, from your channel's page on SullyGnome)
I got lucky with a big Raid back on 03/20, so I capitalized and made sure to beg and plead for viewers when I realized I was close to affiliate LOL
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That's a good move, since it can help you get past that barrier a lot faster
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I was getting worried I wouldn't make it, so I streamed a popular game (Apex) yesterday and spammed some Discords and my Twitter that I was .14 averaged viewers away. I'm DEFINITELY not too proud to beg LOL
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Even with a 7.4 average view stream I got to 3.1, barely over the line. Whew!
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:39 PM
I probably wouldn't advise spamming discords - That tends to lead to doors being closed
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I probably wouldn't advise spamming discords - That tends to lead to doors being closed
Streaming discords with specific Self-promo channels. 🙂
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:40 PM
Fair enough
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I mean it worked so LOL
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:40 PM
Do you know about the Stream ladder site?
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Yup, use it for my TikTOk
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:40 PM
reupload those to youtube as "YouTube Shorts"
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Content recycling
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🙂
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Oh yeah, is that the "stories" version on YouTube?
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:41 PM
Kinda
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Stories are sub 15 seconds
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Shorts are 15-60 seconds
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And they have a dedicated spot on the front page of YouTube on mobile devices
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That's a good idea! My YouTube is just a VOD dump through, I'm not trying to make partner or any money. I'm just stoked to have Channel Points and One Time Event scheduling!
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:42 PM
Make your YT vod dump a playlist
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Shorts are put into their own playlist automatically
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Yes, that's a thing I already did with my VOD dumps. 🙂
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:43 PM
Roger 🙂
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Oh yeah, I gotta look into that as well. 15~60 seconds should be enough to engage some viewers
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:44 PM
Advice - Vigorous use of Sound effects and visually attractive elements do well as shorts
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So, do you know if there is a maximum length for a Highlight?
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I can't find any concrete answers
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I'm looking into it :)
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:45 PM
Thanks - I haven't streamed in a while, so I don't have any Vods to verify this myself 😦
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Google claims 2 minutes, but I know that to be false for a fact
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Their page doesn't seem to state how long they could be, I think that clips are limited to 1 minute only
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:47 PM
Yeah, their page just kinda shows that you can do like, an hour long highlight, which acts kind of like a timestamp
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Oh, btw, you can upload those clip videos to Twitch too (edited)
3:48 PM
They even allow you to add a thumbnail
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Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers.
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Replace replace-me with your channel
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🙂
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Uploads here don't expire either
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For example
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Idk why its showing 29 seconds there, bit weird
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From what I've seen on the screenshots, I think you could select several minutes worth of content and "compress" them into a single video of the best moments of a certain VOD.
3:51 PM
Maybe people are mixing up highlights with clips?
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:52 PM
Probably - Thanks for looking into it with me
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From a screenshot on a video that I found from Gaming Careers, they can be over 2 minutes
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:54 PM
That I knew already - Which is why I'm frustrated with google
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 4/19/2021 3:56 PM
Watching it now
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Hello 👋🏼
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Chorazin
I was getting worried I wouldn't make it, so I streamed a popular game (Apex) yesterday and spammed some Discords and my Twitter that I was .14 averaged viewers away. I'm DEFINITELY not too proud to beg LOL
glad you got there tho amigo
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Shanecus
glad you got there tho amigo
Thanks man!
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Tickle Me Otter 4/21/2021 10:34 AM
Anyone know why VOIP disconnects in Hell Let Loose while I stream?
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any youtubers here
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TheMadVari 4/21/2021 6:16 PM
Ye
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what kind of videos do you make
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I want to make Youtube videos to compliment my Twitch channel but I don't know where to start. ;-; (edited)
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It seems so overwhelming.
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TheMadVari 4/21/2021 7:38 PM
Uhhh just gaming videos and a podcast really
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Some full length some cut up moments
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I cut up my twitch moments now and again but that’s more so to renew my channel trailer on twitch