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I don't have the fastest servers lol.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:33 AM
Personally, I think the parallax scrolling thing is played out. You have a number of instances where the coloring makes readability really poor.
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I think I'm going to ditch the whole parallax scrolling honestly.
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It's totally so messed up.
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The software works 100% tho, so...
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If your site looked like this, it'd be enough
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yep
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thanks for the suggestions
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:35 AM
How are you building the app?
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What do you mean, 'building the app'?
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:36 AM
Just curious what you were using... C#, etc.
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Oh right. Ye, JavaScript
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:36 AM
Does it run in a browser, then?
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Nope.
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Original plans where to run in a browser.
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Again, with the new website, all of this will be, "understandable" let's say. Because right now, your right, It looks bad, and you can't read the text. I'll try to start working on the new website right now.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:40 AM
So, does NCS require authentication to access their content?
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okay so basically
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take this from perspective
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I have contacted some small artists, and they game permissions for redistribution.
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NCS on the other hand, they allow there music to be played on streams, I don't think for commercial use, however, this is a 100% free project available on github etc, so, we are not commercial, and again, if I streamed NCS music without streambop, it would be fine, hence the name, NCS (No Copyright music).
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:42 AM
That didn't address the question, though
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I'm specifically concerned that you have an application floating around using a single credential to access the tracks, correct?
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It's not credentials no. It's all available on youtube.
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We already display the track name.
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Freedownload, Watch is not needed, since its not a video, it's live.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:43 AM
So you've created a player that plays the audio from YouTube videos?
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Yep. Specifically only a few tho. One's that I 100% checked.
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The songs are not stored on your device or anything tho-
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So It's not really a player
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:44 AM
So you're NOT using NCS, then?
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It's really hard to tell what your talking about.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:44 AM
Sounds like it.
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NCS is a youtube channel, and NCS is also a term. 😅
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:45 AM
NCS is a Record Label dedicated to giving a platform to the next generation of Artists in electronic music, representing genres from house to dubstep via trap, drum & bass, electro pop and more.
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NCS has their own site
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We use NCS's youtube channel and use the videos that are allowed to be livestreamed.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:45 AM
Similar to the YouTube channel
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And also, some other small artists that gave us permission to stream, and permission for anyone to stream.
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Again, if any of this changes, I delete the song, and boom, no problems.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:46 AM
The premise of your app seems redundant
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Why wouldn't someone just subscribe to your Youtube mix and run it as a tab?
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It auto credits, that's why.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:46 AM
what is the specific advantange you intend to offer with this tool?
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here, I can show you a example
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:46 AM
Auto-credits to your stream description?
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I'll show you.
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It has built in animations etc.
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That disappears btw, it doesnt stay there. (Unless you set "always-on" which I dont know why you would want to do that)
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and then reappears when there is a new song playing. pretty simple.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:49 AM
So... like a toast notification?
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I'm still not understanding what it does
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TenderSausage
So... like a toast notification?
It is like this, yes
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TenderSausage
I'm still not understanding what it does
Plays the song, credits the song, next song, simple.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:49 AM
So... Why not use Windows native functionality and build a toast daemon or something?
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You can change themes etc, with more in the future.
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TenderSausage
So... Why not use Windows native functionality and build a toast daemon or something?
Because- it's already built? And you would need to do that? (edited)
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:50 AM
Or build it as a plugin to OBS?
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I don't see why a seperate app is necessary for what you're doing
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We just, wanted it as a app.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:50 AM
Okay, that's a reason
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There is some processing that we dont want server side.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:51 AM
Such as?
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This is a free project, and, We have enough songs stored on the server, we dont want to have a online version, detecting if there is a new song, changing themes, storing account data, security.
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Mind you, we are security oriented, *
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So, all of that is resolved, with no accounts, simple download and use. No account data, with tons of security out of the box with auto updates too.
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I hope this makes sense now?
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:52 AM
No (edited)
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what- else is the problem
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:52 AM
The songs, they're stored on your server?
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YES, because how does it play- and also, who wants thousands of songs downloaded on there PC.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:53 AM
And the application accesses only these songs?
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Yes....
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:53 AM
It isn't also accessing songs via YouTube's API?
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no
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:54 AM
So you have permission to store and serve these files?
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okay ykw
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here
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it stored on the servers..
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streamed online..
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then when using the utility, it streams from that.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:55 AM
That doesn't mean you can LEGALLY do what you're doing, my guy
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Well, then how is it legally allowed to download songs on your computer and stream from that?
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:55 AM
Be careful, and talk with a lawyer before you go too far
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You don't want to get yourself in trouble
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we- I don't understand.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:55 AM
Because you agree to it with a TOS
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SnailDOS
Well, then how is it legally allowed to download songs on your computer and stream from that?
... ^^
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:56 AM
wherever it's been downloaded from gives you the LICENSE to the content
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You can't extend that license without a formal agreement
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Discuss it with a lawyer
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I'm 16 lol-
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:56 AM
Then don't make a bad mistake
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I'm a 35 year old software consultant
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listen to my advice
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I don't understand here.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:57 AM
Exactly
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People download songs, and play it on there computer. It's the exact, same thing on SnailFM.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:57 AM
No, it's not
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SnailFM, has the downloaded songs, and plays it.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:57 AM
And the fact that they are doing it doesn't make it legal, either
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SnailFM is a sub of StreamBop
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Simply, we own it too.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:58 AM
You own a clever name
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you don't own the content you're streaming
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pure and simple
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and the fact that you don't understand the implications of using NC content long-term mean you shouold probably do a bit more research,.
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so what do you recommended I do
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message all 1064 artists, gain legal permission, and get sued later because turns out it wasn't even a valid agreement?
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TenderSausage
wherever it's been downloaded from gives you the LICENSE to the content
Yea was a pin in the arse to maintain back when I worked in radio
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SnailDOS
message all 1064 artists, gain legal permission, and get sued later because turns out it wasn't even a valid agreement?
TenderSausage 8/15/2021 1:59 AM
Well, Yes
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i'm stopping the project, I'm done.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:00 AM
That's why NCS has a label now
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They form the formal agreements with the artist, and then create the licensing for distribution
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it's a pretty established industry (edited)
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I don't mean to burst your bubble, my guy, I really don't
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But I've seen people toss hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of their life at stuff like this to get their ass handed to them
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You reaaaally need to know the laws with music licensing
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honestly doesn't make sense to me, since we are literally not even redistributing the music.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:02 AM
You don't think so?
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we keep the official names, everything.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:02 AM
So when Twitch runs an ad, does the artist get a cut of that revenue?
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we are just, re-streaming it.
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ok wait let me just get something
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okay wait
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so even If I gain permission
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I can still get sued, since I have no where to put that "i have permission" anywhere
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:04 AM
You don't need to prove to your users that you have permission
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you need to prove to the artists's lawyers that you do
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ok what about TheFatRat
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I tried to see if the artist TheFatRat has released any music under a free license... He has music on YouTube as "copyright free". However, we can only be confident on that meaning that you can download it without paying. He has not said his music is public domain, nor any creative commons or any other license.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:05 AM
He's saying what I'm saying
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Free download does not mean public domain or creative commons
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you need to understand the differences in those licensing models
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okay well
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great
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:06 AM
If you established a formal agreement that says "X artists lets me play their songs through my app", then you're fine
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ok wait
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how about we twist the tables
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:06 AM
But you'd have to do that with all artists, or their labels
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if streamers are allowed to use the music
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then why can't we just make the streamers pick the music.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:07 AM
huh?
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Well.
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TFR allows music being streamed.
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by twitch streamers etc
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SO, how about we let the streamers pick the songs
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:07 AM
*Update: As of October 19, 2020, Soundtrack by Twitch (beta) is now available for creators worldwide. Download here. We are excited to announce a new creator tool that we’ve been developing over th...
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See all these relationships/agreements they have?
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Artists under those labels have agreed to allow Soundtrack access to and the right to stream the artist's content
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the artists never reply..
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i already tried
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:09 AM
It's a grind
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it's not an easy industry
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They usually have an A&R rep
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Yea with radio it was all FCC based and just bought blanket licenses
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ugh.
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okay
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well, thanks I guess.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:10 AM
Sorry, man. I really am trying to look out for you (edited)
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I understand, I appreciate it. It's really hard to have these convo's without paying money and stuff. Really appreciate it.
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SnailDOS
I understand, I appreciate it. It's really hard to have these convo's without paying money and stuff. Really appreciate it.
TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:12 AM
That's true.
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One more question, I'll need to have a PP and TOS for my software, right?
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Like some form of agreement.
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:12 AM
Absolutely
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You want one
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It's to protect you, too
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As the producer/owner of the software
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Alright, thank you
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I messaged TFR, however, NCS is a different story, who do I ask, NCS or the individual artists..?
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TenderSausage 8/15/2021 2:31 AM
I think NCS, since they're a label
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Problems resolved. Already had 2 artists say yes. So, shouldn't be a problem now.
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Daniel_plays32 8/15/2021 5:56 PM
Wrong chat #old🔴streams
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer 8/17/2021 1:21 AM
Got a question Does anybody have an idea of what Twitch extensions on twitch log your IP for malicious purposes? I want to create a warning post to help streamers avoid them.
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Avalon the Dargon Slayer
Got a question Does anybody have an idea of what Twitch extensions on twitch log your IP for malicious purposes? I want to create a warning post to help streamers avoid them.
Might be helpful to create a reminder post about internet safety overall, and the usefulness of VPNs if someone doesn't want their IP logged.
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SnailDOS
Problems resolved. Already had 2 artists say yes. So, shouldn't be a problem now.
Also! I want to say that your profile pic animation is awesome!
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Ty :)
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"We can't grant you the permission to stream our songs" "to hard to do etc etc". As I thought.
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SnailDOS
"We can't grant you the permission to stream our songs" "to hard to do etc etc". As I thought.
People being people.
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I had to find some smaller artists
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they gladly said yes.
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Smaller artists want all the promotion they can get, it's only natural
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ye lol
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Now time to do some marketing.
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TenderSausage 8/19/2021 8:49 PM
@Munkyal77 #old🔴streams only, please
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I'm learning how to code, and I'm creating a bot in another server. One day I'll have enough knowledge to implement machine learning to it and have it learn to automatically filter stuff like this from happening in the wrong channels.
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Every public server that is remotely related to gaming/streaming has spammers and people that "forgot to read the rules".
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Deleted User 8/20/2021 2:14 AM
Any tips for new streamers
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Deleted User
Any tips for new streamers
Regarding what, exactly?
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There's a lot to learn and talk about when you are just starting out
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I guess I'd first recommend you to ask yourself why do you wanna stream and what do you wanna accomplish while doing it. It can help you define your first goals and the direction you wanna take your content
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I’d say don’t get into it for money
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Don't buy a blue yeti microphone
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Jokes aside though your audio quality is probably more important than anything else since ideally it'll make up most of your stream. So make sure it's as good as you can get it with your current t equipment whether that's a cheap USB mic or a complete XLR studio setup.
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i think ill be using this for now on
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in case anyone keeps telling me my goals and dream are not "reasonable" compare to the person telling me that
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in case anyone keeps telling me my goals and dream are not "reasonable" compare to the person telling me that
Yeah, you can set any goal you want, if its reasonable or not, just depends on what you have planned to achieve that, but people confuse "reasonable" with "realistic" a lot.
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rebornnora 8/20/2021 1:10 PM
why does realistic have to be involved?
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if the goals lets say not reasonable
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TenderSausage 8/20/2021 5:50 PM
Because goals are meant to be achieved? Reasonable is subjective. Realistic assumes some universal constraints.
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Hi guys
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My country is kinda dogshit so my question is
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Is there any other way for me to get donations
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Cuz we've been waiting for 6 years for my country to give green light to paypal so we can receive money
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Right now we can only buy things
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TenderSausage 8/21/2021 3:09 PM
Which country are you in?
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TenderSausage
Which country are you in?
Montenegro
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TenderSausage 8/21/2021 3:15 PM
Is Xoom an option?
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No idea
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Never heard of it
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Wise might also be an option: https://wise.com/
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It's not as easy as other options that cater to the US market, but they might work
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I'll check when I get home
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Thanks
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SnailDOS
Now time to do some marketing.
SomeTexanGuy 8/22/2021 3:26 AM
I mean NIGHTMODE got some songs
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And it's made by JERICHO/Tucker
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Ooh
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That was the most views and follows I’ve ever gotten on a 2 hour stream, shit got me high rn
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Also hello people
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I’ll give you a follow! I’m about to stream some dark souls.
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DosesAndMimosas 8/23/2021 3:31 AM
Thanks tiny boop I follow back and do shoutouts too. Appreciate ya
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TenderSausage 8/23/2021 2:53 PM
I wanna mention something that's been nagging at me for a while, and it's going to be a bit "stream of consciousness" with no edits, so here it goes. Time is our only limited resource. Work is effort over time. More effort means more work gets done. This is the basic principle. For new streamers, there's a lot of content out there that talks about tools, software, platforms, and all of that. Over the last two years, I feel like I've wasted more time researching and watching tutorials on YouTube than I have actually streaming, and the fact is that some of it was a TOTAL waste of time. Here's a few things I've learned recently: 1. Abandon the "meet everyone where they live" strategy. This is a desperate move early on as a streamer, and the time investment of managing several platforms (or the cost of paying for automation to do that) is likely not worth it. If you're fortunate enough to scale and have revenue coming in to support expansion, then do that when the time is right. 2. As streamers, it's the content that's king. This means going out of your comfort zone, pushing the "Go Live" button, and making content. It kind of doesn't matter what it is early, it just needs to be content. 3. As you put in reps, you will get more comfortable. The challenge then becomes consistency. Getting on, putting up content, and engaging the community. Do it over and over until it becomes second nature. 4. Once you've got consistency down, THEN start worrying about metrics. If your input is inconsistent, so will be the output. Using the metrics to guess against inconsistent data is nearly impossible. 5. Eventually, the metrics will tell a story. This is where those influencer videos might make sense to watch, because they are largely talking about how to scale the effort of streaming, not really how to "get started" like they say they are. (edited)
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TenderSausage
I wanna mention something that's been nagging at me for a while, and it's going to be a bit "stream of consciousness" with no edits, so here it goes. Time is our only limited resource. Work is effort over time. More effort means more work gets done. This is the basic principle. For new streamers, there's a lot of content out there that talks about tools, software, platforms, and all of that. Over the last two years, I feel like I've wasted more time researching and watching tutorials on YouTube than I have actually streaming, and the fact is that some of it was a TOTAL waste of time. Here's a few things I've learned recently: 1. Abandon the "meet everyone where they live" strategy. This is a desperate move early on as a streamer, and the time investment of managing several platforms (or the cost of paying for automation to do that) is likely not worth it. If you're fortunate enough to scale and have revenue coming in to support expansion, then do that when the time is right. 2. As streamers, it's the content that's king. This means going out of your comfort zone, pushing the "Go Live" button, and making content. It kind of doesn't matter what it is early, it just needs to be content. 3. As you put in reps, you will get more comfortable. The challenge then becomes consistency. Getting on, putting up content, and engaging the community. Do it over and over until it becomes second nature. 4. Once you've got consistency down, THEN start worrying about metrics. If your input is inconsistent, so will be the output. Using the metrics to guess against inconsistent data is nearly impossible. 5. Eventually, the metrics will tell a story. This is where those influencer videos might make sense to watch, because they are largely talking about how to scale the effort of streaming, not really how to "get started" like they say they are. (edited)
I just follow everyone I cross paths with hoping they will reciprocate, and do my thing on my stream.
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I just follow everyone I cross paths with hoping they will reciprocate, and do my thing on my stream.
But... it doesn't help you in the long run. You think that your audience is gonna be composed of other people that are trying to grow their channels as well? Do you live your life watching their content when they go live, and them watching yours in return, for the viewer number to be remotely close to the number of followers you'll have? That's the point where the "follow for follow" logic fails you and everyone else that think this is positive for their channels. It's like being mass followed by bots, having thousands of "followers" but a single digit viewership.
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Instead of that, you should be getting some experiences from other streamers (like @TenderSausage sent above) and translating that into your way of doing the things you do on stream.
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Research what you want to improve, get curious and do some more research to find out if a crazy idea that you got is doable and start up your stream. Preparation is great, but there's nothing like experience from practice.
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TenderSausage 8/23/2021 5:29 PM
I'm just realizing how valuable time is as an asset and how little control we have about the quantity of time, but how much control we have in what we do with it.
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Spending your time where it counts and prioritizing those things is the struggle.
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But it all starts (and ends) with that Go Live button when it comes to streaming. (edited)
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You are getting to some very good points there!
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I’m working on a lot of stuff to customize my channel that’s my main focus right now. I was just saying, me having just started out, I’m doing a lot of networking by linking up with other streamers
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We see a lot of people over-preparing (ourselves included), that misuse what time they got available and focus on the wrong things
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I get what you mean though, follows for follows doesn’t create an audience
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I get what you mean though, follows for follows doesn’t create an audience
TenderSausage 8/23/2021 5:33 PM
It's a fine thing to follow back the people who follow you, but it shouldn't be a predominant viewership growth strategy. It will help, but it will not be a driver.
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And it shouldn't be touted as a growth strategy, either. It shouldn't be promoted like that.
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TenderSausage
And it shouldn't be touted as a growth strategy, either. It shouldn't be promoted like that.
Fair enough. Like I said I’m just starting out, with like 30 followers. Still figuring out the space
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Early networking can sometimes have a beneficial outcome, but what could benefit you more is creating content that you like for a community around a game or subject that you love. (edited)
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TenderSausage 8/23/2021 5:34 PM
At best, it's a community building activity, and only if it leads to a conversion, i.e. them joining your Discord or something. (edited)
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Thercio
Early networking can sometimes have a beneficial outcome, but what could benefit you more is creating content that you like for a community around a game or subject that you love. (edited)
TenderSausage 8/23/2021 5:35 PM
Passion is what people tune into. @Thercio nailed it. When you love something, people can feel it. (edited)
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I just scream at the viewers incoherently
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TenderSausage 8/23/2021 5:36 PM
That is a proven strategy, though
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Shanecus
I just scream at the viewers incoherently
Solid strat
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TenderSausage 8/23/2021 5:37 PM
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Shanecus
I just scream at the viewers incoherently
And I'm 100% sure that your viewers love that you are strong and independent, and you are your own spiritual animal
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I offer to let them make decisions for me for the game I’m playing, seems like people enjoy that.
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If you want to see why f4f is tricky I suggest looking into Instagram growth. People do mass unfollows constantly to make their metrics look better
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And I'm 100% sure that your viewers love that you are strong and independent, and you are your own spiritual animal
You are too kind
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They really just love my suffering xD
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Viewer decisions can be fun boop, but people lurking also just chill and listen a lot incase you try and move it along fast
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If you want to see why f4f is tricky I suggest looking into Instagram growth. People do mass unfollows constantly to make their metrics look better
Have worked with social media before, can confirm. People will follow thousands upon thousands of people over the course of months, then mass unfollow them (there are tools for that, so that you don't get shadowbanned and wonder why no one interacts with your content anymore)
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Can take some 3, 4 days to completely unfollow everyone, a few profiles every 20 minutes, so it doesn't trigger any algorithms on Instagram's side.
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People basically create a fake follower-base because it's pretty to look at, not because it works regarding the level of engagement you'd expect from thousands of people.
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Same thing happens on Twitch.
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For sure. Odd on twitch since you only see the one number and not how many someone follows.
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Deleted User 8/23/2021 9:01 PM
Hii all any tips for a new streamer on twitch any advice would be appreciated thank you
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We were just discusssing about this above, @Deleted User
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All the talk from today on this channel is relevant (edited)
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Deleted User 8/23/2021 9:04 PM
Cool I'll read through it thanks
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Deleted User 8/23/2021 9:18 PM
Do you guys think streaming on ps5 is worth it? Or to go the pc route?
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TenderSausage 8/23/2021 9:18 PM
They're both fine options.
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Deleted User 8/23/2021 9:19 PM
Cool I hear overlays might be a problem on ps5
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But i think it doable just more work
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There are twitch plugins you can use to get overlays, otherwise the pc cap card method is easiest way to play ps5 and have overlays
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Shanecus
There are twitch plugins you can use to get overlays, otherwise the pc cap card method is easiest way to play ps5 and have overlays
Deleted User 8/23/2021 10:41 PM
Ty for the info
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Deleted User 8/24/2021 1:50 AM
How's everyone doing tonight
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Captain_BakaNeko 8/24/2021 3:24 AM
awake for a bit...
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Deleted User 8/24/2021 4:26 AM
Nice haha
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I'm streaming some rl
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I went into a niche website where there are a plethora of written interviews and there are sections of questions. Most commons is making connection with someone and giving or helping someone with something .
11:25 AM
I have one thing in mind. People always tell me to make friends on social media regardless which platform. That’s not an issue for me. I want to stream as a career and wanted to stream full time. I ask for advice and the most common is make friends. Easy and understandable. The issue is people double back on that advice only because my main reason. My goal is to stream to make money so you give me a possible solution to do it but also you telling me not to do it because of my main reason. (edited)
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It’s like asking how to be a doctor because the pay is good and you want it for the money so someone give you a genuine advice but then also say don’t use this advice only because you are doing it for fianance over than the ideals of saving lives
11:28 AM
It’s just going to start a morality and priorities argument
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I don't think there's a morality issue involved. You put in time and work to create content for your viewers, no problem getting paid for doing it. What I and others have mentioned before is that you seemed more worried with making money than anything else. And your viewers would take notice, undermining your efforts.
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I'm afraid Reborn's argument is a little flawed from my perspective. As a doctor your skill would be diagnosing and treating patients - thats what you're being paid for. You're not being paid for the reasons you're there, you're being paid for your skills. As a twitch streamer, one of your skills has to be 'likeable/entertaining' in order to fulfil your 'job description'. If you dont fill these skills, you dont fit the roles intention and you won't succeed. People will donate and support you as a twitch streamer because they like you, and thats why people say to make friends.
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But since you wanna view it as a business, let's talk money then. To make money, you have to spend money first. What have you spent your money on, that would help your channel grow and reach more people?
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Have you gotten ads on social media to promote your videos?
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Have you invested in a good camera (DSLR) with a good lighting setup?
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How's your branding and presentation? Do you have animated overlays, a merch store with custom designs that people would want to buy?
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Do you have a good audio setup to control your mic, game and/or Discord volume?
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Have you taken any classes/courses in public speaking, oratory or anything to help you "link the dots" in a conversation so you can almost always speak fluently and calmly about whatever topics come up on your stream?
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Get 7~8 thousand USD with your family, if they can spare it, or take a loan in a bank. Invest in the things above according to your business plan and you will make it back in around one year.
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Since money is your goal, then start going after it.
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I also hope that you are doing your own research on how to improve your content and presentation, because viewers want quality, not someone to sympathize just because you want them to throw money at you. (edited)
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Now, focus on your objectives, stop complaining about any obstacle you find in your way and work around them. And obviously, start streaming on a schedule. (edited)
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Deleted User 8/24/2021 3:44 PM
Is there a way to link discord and twitch or do I just drop my link handle?
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Felimancer 8/24/2021 3:46 PM
In your User Settings you should see a Connections tab where you can link to twitch:
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(in discord)
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Deleted User 8/24/2021 3:47 PM
Ah okay thank you very much
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Nice that was esay
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TenderSausage 8/24/2021 4:47 PM
@rebornnora Here's my take, since you're asking for advice: If you're approaching streaming as a business venture, meaning you want to stream full-time as your primary means of supporting yourself, then you need to treat it like a business. Come at it with a plan. Write it all down. If you need a sounding board, bring your ideas here and we can discuss. Business don't usually just happen; They require a lot of planning and execution, among many other considerations. My advice to you would be to make sure you're running your ideas by people who are aligned with your vision. Asking Grammy what she thinks about your streaming venture might not net you the best feedback. The "people" you're talking to aren't wrong per-se, but it's not structured advice that will help you do something about it. Networking is a crucial part of any business. It leads to conversions. For you, in the most basic sense, conversions is views:
  • You connect with someone
  • They connect with you
  • They watch your content, as well as sponsored content, which pays the platform.
  • After you hit certain markers, the platform shares a portion of ad revenue with you (Affiliate or Partner in the case of Twitch)
If your only strategy is to rely on Affiliate or Partner to earn you a livable income, you'll be a dirt poor, unhappy streamer. Why? Because you're working your ass off for $2.50 per sub AFTER you did a whole lot of foundational work. The truly successful streamers use their networking abilities to attract sponsors, who essentially pay you to be you and represent their brand. Lupo has Verizon, a ton of people rep hardware brands or GFUEL or whatever, and they make affiliate money on those sales too. As a business model, streaming is a lot of work. We've only touched on bits and pieces of it, specific to your questions. I don't know you, your passion for streaming, your ambition/drive, your financial situation, etc. so take all this as just strangers giving advice.
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And, as @Felimancer mentioned, there isn't a morality issue at play here. If you are feeling like there is, you may want to investigate why within yourself. Streamers are entertainers. There's no obligation for you to do anything as an entertainer except entertain, which is completely subjective to the viewer. You're not sworn to an oath like a judge or a doctor. You're just a person with a talent you want to share. Can you imagine "America's Got Talent" being successful without offering that MASSIVE prize at the end? It's a business. Show business, the entertainment biz, call it what you want. If there are people holding you to some kind of standard or setting expectations for you as far as "being humble" and "not earning money", then seriously kick them out of your business. Run your stream the way that makes you happy, and don't compromise. And it's TOTALLY FINE to want to make money from using your time to create entertainment for others. DO NOT GET THAT TWISTED.
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TenderSausage 8/24/2021 5:19 PM
@Thercio brings up some very important things to consider about a legitimate business plan for a streamer. You will need seed capital (money) to get started, and a source of continuing revenue as you go to not only support you and your life, but the business's needs too, such as advertising, events, new equipment, services, staff (like an editor or a on-air moderator), taxes, and more. I would have what I consider a "professional" streaming setup, and it was approx. $6k. Add my Razer Blade 15 and you're closer to $8k. It's not a cheap investment to start, and no savvy investor would invest in someone who only wants to spend money on cool stuff without a plan for repayment (ties back to the business plan and how you expect to make revenue). Lighting, cameras, microphones, computers, and the like are the tools of our trade, primarily. It's important to set a baseline, but please trust when I say that chasing the best gear is a time and money suck. In addition to the $8k I mentioned above, I've spent countless dollars on random stuff and hair-brained ideas. Word of the wise is to pick a few things that work, and stick with them for a while. Haters gon' hate, and when you have revenue to spend on new equipment, you will.
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Also sometimes you may go months making a paycheck and then a weird outside event happens. Like people returning to the world this summer. I could consider streaming a part time job for me up until April but once May hit I was at 1/5 normal. So be wary that you could do everything above and still fail at times
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TenderSausage 8/24/2021 7:21 PM
@Shanecus brings up a potential risk to recurring revenues. What would be your plan to ensure yourself and any other stakeholders will be paid if something like that would happen? This is a big part of your business planning.
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@rebornnora If you haven't done a SWOT analysis, it's a good activity to get some things down on paper to see how you view streaming as a business prospect.
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Deleted User 8/24/2021 8:08 PM
I need some advice
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I tried streaming for the first time 2 days ago
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my 2 viewers which happen to be my friends told me I'm too quiet and don't talk enough and honestly I agree but Idk what to talk about
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Felimancer 8/24/2021 8:10 PM
I make notes on stuff that happens to me during the week so if I go quiet I can remember a story to tell people. Or you can just think of subjects that excite you or you could talk about in a fun way. It doesnt have to be a script - just reminders of something to chat about emoji_zo27
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Deleted User 8/24/2021 8:10 PM
ok thx
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my 2 viewers which happen to be my friends told me I'm too quiet and don't talk enough and honestly I agree but Idk what to talk about
TenderSausage 8/24/2021 10:43 PM
What kind of content are you streaming?
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TenderSausage
What kind of content are you streaming?
Deleted User 8/24/2021 11:54 PM
Good question
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Excellent answer
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@TenderSausage have u heard of payoneer
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i made payoneer acc
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but idk if i can connect it to youtube and twitch for donations
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nobody talks about it
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TenderSausage 8/25/2021 2:26 PM
@mikix0493 I think Payoneer is geared toward freelancers in the professional services space, but the mechanism they use seems legit. Their fee schedule is kinda crazy. I like the fact that transfers between in-app users is free, but making you pay 2% when you deposit to your bank account seems steep, especially when they're also charging 3% on CC transactions for guest transactions.
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As a means for getting a money transaction done, Payoneer seems like an option similar to PayPal.
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My opinion is these are fine, but they don't add any value for the cost. Other platforms, like Patreon, take a cut but also add user value through exclusive content on that platform. I'm still not sure Patreon is the right place, but their concept is more friendly for people in the streaming space.
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SomeTexanGuy 8/25/2021 10:07 PM
Drew likes my merch design ayyyy
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Have you guys ever played elder scrolls online?
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I’m thinking of trying it out
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Worth it?
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anyone got ps4 wanna play mhw
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I need to get my boyfriend to 50 followers!! He's at 27 right now. Advice?
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Sly
I need to get my boyfriend to 50 followers!! He's at 27 right now. Advice?
If you scroll up a few pages there is actually some of the best most in depth streaming advice I have ever seen come out of this discord or the subreddit.
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So I'd check that out.
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Hello there, I would need some advice. Someone there?
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arvo2331
Hello there, I would need some advice. Someone there?
What sort of advice?
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technical advice
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for a newbie
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#🔧│tech-support-archive would be the best place :)
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thanks Misio
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No worries!
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arvo2331
thanks Misio
Also, check the pinned message in #🔧│tech-support-archive there is some standard information they would need to help you efficiently
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Lots of new start ups streamers recently. I wonder if it’s because summer is ending for some and they are starting school schedules and other things?
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I think we always see an increase of new streamers the second half of the year. Especially in the later months, when we get most of the Triple-A releases.
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Many of them are hobbyist streamers, just doing it for fun. There's also the "Two Week Career Pro-Streamers", who wanna go all in buying a lot of expensive hardware and tools, but don't try to research even the basics about... anything. Then stop because they get frustrated, for not getting any results.
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Many of them are hobbyist streamers, just doing it for fun. There's also the "Two Week Career Pro-Streamers", who wanna go all in buying a lot of expensive hardware and tools, but don't try to research even the basics about... anything. Then stop because they get frustrated, for not getting any results.
TenderSausage 8/27/2021 3:17 PM
Why you gotta call me out like that, man? 🙂 /s
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But for real, I should stream more
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TenderSausage 8/27/2021 3:26 PM
I still dont' have alerts configured. I just moved on and bought more hardware.
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For the alerts, I just use the StreamElements one. Definitely more complex than the Streamlabs one, but gives me more control over what and how I make it.
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TenderSausage 8/27/2021 3:41 PM
I have a two-PC setup, and the issue comes from getting the alerts sounds over on my game PC
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I just stopped using Voicemeeter to test out the new Elgato software... It's fine
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But it doesn't have a return path, so I think I'm gonna need virtual cables anyway
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That's, for real, why I don't have them
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Because I can't hear them
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It's a stupid reason, and anybody reading this should recognize that 🙂
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Since the alert sounds would be coming from the streaming PC, couldn't you put it on a speaker, so you'd hear the alert going as it happens? That would only be an issue if you use noise-cancelling headphones, besides muting system sounds. Microsoft hates this one little trick
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TenderSausage 8/27/2021 3:46 PM
I mean, when you say it like that, it sounds so simple
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I think I can set up a webhook to have my lights react to different stuff, too
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Just thinking of the easiest solution first 😆
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TenderSausage
I think I can set up a webhook to have my lights react to different stuff, too
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TenderSausage 8/27/2021 3:48 PM
LEARN FROM ME: Don't chase the complicated stuff!
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I mean, do, but, you know...
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But, for closure, you can do webhooks. https://dev.twitch.tv/docs/api/webhooks-reference
Webhooks Reference
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I got a friend that put her background lighting to react to follows, subs and donations (don't know how she did it, never asked), but with stuff like this I tend to seek the first solution that does the job, and then worrying about how it can be improved later
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TenderSausage 8/27/2021 3:50 PM
That's the right way
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Iterate
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I'm definitely saving this link for the future
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bruh my randomizer nuzlocke's have been doing SO well, with the lowest vod view count is 122, but i haven't been getting any new followers.....this is tough lol
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Yea and VOD view count also is every person who blipped in during the stream. And shows it as views after.
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Tho twitch has been weird this month amigo
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Like all this week I’ve been on twilight Princess and in the number one spot on it. Last night had a crazy viewer average. Still got zero follows xD But idk, some months numbers go up others less so. I wouldn’t dwell. The randomizer is dope either way.
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bruh you were number 1, i was in the top 100 with my part 3 video (edited)
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....granted i was number 100, but still
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Yea and even at 1 I got zero follows xD so I wouldn’t sweat it
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After all that Gengar is insane xD
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And if you kill Lego I’ll be broken
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im just glad that with the amount of days i've been streaming, im actually close to getting the 3 avg viewers i need to be affiliate
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Shanecus
And if you kill Lego I’ll be broken
yeah..........about that
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It will happen my guy
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i guess you haven't seen my latest vod lol
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You monster…
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HEY EVERYONE DIED ALRIGHT
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I HAD TO START OVER
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Tragic…
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my gengar got hit with a dying destiny bond
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everyone else just went with it
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I pop vids on when walking my dog from people in the discord so I had not
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AND I GOT TO THE 7TH GYM TOWN
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now i gotta start over....kinda sad that the randomizer is the only thing that's been getting a low of viewership, but i mean hey, at least more people are watching
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was the first game that got me to a new max live viewers of 7
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Hey if you enjoy it dude that goes a long way too
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it's good to see some new reactions of myself, and it's especially good when i have someone in chat talking, giving me conversations and choosing nicknames for me
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If you see a bunch of notifs there was a discord scam bot
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ah thanks @Shanecus
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Wassup everyone
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Hello Vegeta.
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i can already tell his goal is over 9000 followers
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Lol 😂😂 and how would like to come to my stream tomorrow I would really appreciate it if y'all were to be there
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New week starting up everyone Any big plans? For me it’s back to the college slush
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Back to work and hopefully hearing back about a new job
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Nice! Fingers crossed on that new job then xD Do you work in the art field?
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Hey guys
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I asked my friend in different country to give me his paypal so i could setup donations
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Yesterday i got my first donation but It doesn't show up on paypal ( it says balance is 0)
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Do i need to do something automatically on streamlabs or how does that work?
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Shanecus
Nice! Fingers crossed on that new job then xD Do you work in the art field?
I work at a hardware store currently, and trying to get into education. Also trying to get an art side hustle going :)
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Ladnarim
I work at a hardware store currently, and trying to get into education. Also trying to get an art side hustle going :)
Nice like a full teaching gig? I have a bunch of friends in teaching, or student aid and they all seem to enjoy it. And the art looks good so I can totally see the hustle. Do you get lots of commissions so far?
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Do i need to do something automatically on streamlabs or how does that work?
I'm not sure honestly with the different accounts thing and all that. Normal you link your paypal into streamlabs and you are pretty good to go as long as your paypal is set up correctly
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Nice like a full teaching gig? I have a bunch of friends in teaching, or student aid and they all seem to enjoy it. And the art looks good so I can totally see the hustle. Do you get lots of commissions so far?
I'd like to get the full teaching gig eventually, probably middle or HS science since my background is in Biology. For now I am applying to TA and Parapro positions to get my feet in the water. And thank you! I've done a few pieces for friends and friends of friends but that's about it. I'm trying to get better at putting myself out there so more eyes will see my work :)
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Ladnarim
I'd like to get the full teaching gig eventually, probably middle or HS science since my background is in Biology. For now I am applying to TA and Parapro positions to get my feet in the water. And thank you! I've done a few pieces for friends and friends of friends but that's about it. I'm trying to get better at putting myself out there so more eyes will see my work :)
Yea exposure for art is a big step just getting people to ask “oh cool where did that come from” is always a good place. Most my teaching friends are back in the Midwest where it’s like 1 or 2 schools for life. Here in Vegas the last teacher I talked to made it sound like war in the classroom xD
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Shanecus
Yea exposure for art is a big step just getting people to ask “oh cool where did that come from” is always a good place. Most my teaching friends are back in the Midwest where it’s like 1 or 2 schools for life. Here in Vegas the last teacher I talked to made it sound like war in the classroom xD
Learning how Twitter works for art stuff today since it's something I've never used before. Hopefully that will be good for exposure. I have heard good things about teaching in the Midwest too, but unfortunately that's a ways away from me.
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Learning how Twitter works for art stuff today since it's something I've never used before. Hopefully that will be good for exposure. I have heard good things about teaching in the Midwest too, but unfortunately that's a ways away from me.
Yea and feel free to ask if any questions on social stuff. We have a good group here that’s used them. Lately I’ve seen more interaction on Instagram, but Twitter is great for vitality too. One good photo gets on a retweet chain and you get tons of new eyes on the work.
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Shanecus
Yea and feel free to ask if any questions on social stuff. We have a good group here that’s used them. Lately I’ve seen more interaction on Instagram, but Twitter is great for vitality too. One good photo gets on a retweet chain and you get tons of new eyes on the work.
Thank you! I've been using insta for a while now and now trying to branch out into other social media, Twitter has always intimidated me for some reason. I think cause it's so primarily text based and I don't have anything clever to say most of the time haha
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Thank you! I've been using insta for a while now and now trying to branch out into other social media, Twitter has always intimidated me for some reason. I think cause it's so primarily text based and I don't have anything clever to say most of the time haha
Yea I saw your awesome Instagram! The Reddit photos are cool too. And remember you can 100% use a photo on each tweet
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Shanecus
Yea I saw your awesome Instagram! The Reddit photos are cool too. And remember you can 100% use a photo on each tweet
Thank you I've been trying really hard to improve my art this year to a standard where I would buy it. And I will def use photos, but are the captions equally important when posting photos?
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I see it as, if the captions are important to you then yes. Since you know what kind of people you want to attract to the art/page. Some artists just pop the art out and let people talk in the comments. Depends on the piece I guess and if you want to tell people what it is
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Sry long reply, had to drive
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AggronLord 8/31/2021 2:40 PM
hey if i start streaming, can i use my current username or would i get in trouble from liek nintendo
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cuz its a pokemon
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TenderSausage 8/31/2021 2:51 PM
I don't think they'll care
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But it's possible
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AggronLord 8/31/2021 3:11 PM
ill just break out one of my other usernames, im partial to hobo guitar
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Hi everyone. New, brand new here. Not sure this is the right place but I don't know where to start...
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I am giving a talk at a camp without internet. I want to let the users connect via wifi to a router (I have three) and then "stream" my computer monitor in realtime to all of them. All locally. How?
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huh, I am not sure honestly. @TenderSausage may be able to help since he is a tech savant. and usually helps in #🔧│tech-support-archive
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Shanecus
huh, I am not sure honestly. @TenderSausage may be able to help since he is a tech savant. and usually helps in #🔧│tech-support-archive
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@AggronLord I think hobo guitar or guitar hobo both sound fun for names. Avoiding brands in the name to start out is a good idea too, just to avoid complications down the road.
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Of course Brain. Sorry for delayed reply, just finished up a class.
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AggronLord 9/1/2021 2:28 AM
hobo guitar is a simpsons reference, bart picked up a violin and called it a hobo guitar
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i play viola, which is basically a violin, so it fits
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Man I am so far behind/ need to rewatch the Simpsons. It’s been years since I’ve seen an episode. I think it’s on Disney tho?
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But yea that would be a solid fit for a name then for sure
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dj 𝕏gam1ng 9/2/2021 8:16 AM
When clipping on twitch while live, is there settings to set up like length of clip beforehand
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Marmaduck 9/2/2021 9:38 PM
not really, at least what i think
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i know that clips can be a maximum time of 30 seconds...or 60....can't remember
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Felimancer 9/2/2021 9:43 PM
I think there is a way to do it, I know someone who has a command that auto-clips them and posts it to their twitter, no idea how they do it though sorry
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As far as I know without an extension or something outside the twitch video producer no. You are saying like lock it so people have to clip at idk 24 seconds no more no less?
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Otherwise yea it’s just that slider and you decided where it stops and starts and always err on the side of going longer Sometimes people clip stuff for me and it’s second too short and cuts off the end or punchline
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TenderSausage 9/3/2021 5:08 PM
Please post in #old🔴streams, not #💬│chat
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I’m on the road for about a week. So I may miss some messages (edited)
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kentwon_the_boss 9/4/2021 5:02 PM
Hey guys I’m in the look out for a headset right now at the moment, my budget is around 300$ ish and I’m looking for big cuffs but mainly it’s just going to be use for sounds and audio that’s it. If y’all have any suggestions lmk in the comments and it’s for PlayStation/pc thanks
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DannyMiii 9/4/2021 5:08 PM
Any advice on multistreaming with a PS5 and a chromebook? Even if I have to pay (although I'd prefer something I can mess around with for a while) I want to use my comp's webcam and the gaming broadcast together. (edited)
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How do yall come up with names? I’m very picky about them, and I can’t come up with a good one for the life of me. I hate my name. I don’t even like making content cause I don’t like having to advertise my name.
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I used a part of my name that I like combined with something I do. my gamertag is my name backwards. But you could combine stuff from a character you like, your favorite color or animal maybe? Or a name/nickname you want to go by online instead?
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It’s so hard
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My name was scottz33 because I had a z33 aka Nissan 350z. Cars long gone and I hate the name cause ppl call me scottz. Before that it was Slippy4, but I didn’t like having numbers in it. My last name starts with Lip that’s where I got the slippy from,
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But there's something that you aren't considering: The name won't bring anything to the table, You are the one giving value and identity to your own name. It's not likely that you'd immediately accept in your mind if people started calling you Josh, Robert or The man who shall not be named Scott.
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So the name doesn't matter in the sense that it's just a collection of characters forming a word, without you, the person named Scott, attributing your value to it.
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I never cared too much by nicknames either, since my name, Tércio, is already very unique in itself. I just added an H to my online nickname because there were other Tércios around, so I got an even higher chance of finding my nickname available everywhere - new sites, media platforms, character names, etc (edited)
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MaddogMetzy 9/6/2021 2:32 AM
I've got warzone customs running if anyone is interested
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Maddogmetzy #4725606
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#looking-for-group @MaddogMetzy
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Chrys_Marie 9/6/2021 4:21 PM
Hello everyone. Glad to be here! I was wondering if anyone had insight on streaming on YouTube vs twitch? I want to start streaming…games, Lego builds, YouTube videos etc. for fun, no motive just to meet new people and build a safe fun community for like minded humans (edited)
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Felimancer 9/6/2021 4:38 PM
I've watched a couple of interesting videos on the twitch vs youtube thing, it seems like twitch is a better place for streaming right now but its good to be on both, making videos on Youtube and streaming on Twitch. Its all down to what you feel comfortable with though, and you can always try streaming on both to begin with to see which you prefer? (also if you want me to link the videos I can, I'm not sure which channel they fall under XD)
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YouTube has the bigger advantage regarding past streams, because they become regular videos your viewers (present and future) can look up and watch.
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I've seen a video from a YouTube content creator (The Spiffing Brit) where he says that his most profitable video is a 3h36m video from a stream where he played Rimworld;
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As long as you treat it as a video, not just a "dumped vod", YouTube will put it into people's search results.
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(And by that I mean creating a proper thumbnail, using the proper hashtags for your content, writting a good description with all the info and even relevant timestamps)
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If you prefer to stream on Twitch exclusively, you can learn how to edit your videos and make your own best-moments compilations for YouTube
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So I have a pc, and a ps5. It is my understanding that if I wanna stream the ps5 thru SLOBS on my pc I need a capture card. There’s a lot of elgato models but Idk, someone said hd60s, is that fine? The other issue is how would the people in either the ps5 party or ps5 game chat hear me? My mic (yeti nano - usb mic) would be plugged into my pc, no mic for my ps5.. Heard I need a chat link but my friend said he didn’t know for sure. And how would that work? I just want to stream on my pc, while playing nba 2k, but still would like to be able to communicate with people in my party or in game chat on 2k, and have stream hear them too.
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L server ngl
7:50 PM
Y’all all in here just to self promo. After scrolling through tons of #🔧│tech-support-archive without any actually help it’s clear.
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So Tender Sausage has helped hundreds in tech support over the last two years. When you asked about your name looks like people here gave you real suggestions? and you didn't replay back? And a few of us said we were just gone for awhile/ Like I'm out of state. It seems like you have a pretty quick take on things amigo
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7:52 PM
Like Thercio gave you genuine feedback
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And Sausage helps everyone for free
7:53 PM
Dude has a full time job and kids too so I just am surprised at the snap back scott
7:54 PM
Feel free to @ me tho as I am away from PC at the moment prepping a wedding and have my phone on
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"Tell me what I need to know, but I'm not gonna read, reply or do any actual research on what I think I need to buy."
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I have been trying to do research
8:02 PM
Mentioned that in my post
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As you can see I’m 90% there
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I use an Elgato HD60s+ and do Voicechat thru discord when playing with console people
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Just can’t find the answers to the small things. Every tutorial I’ve found thus far doesn’t mention anything about communicating with team
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When using Xbox you just use xbox live to chat
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Thank you, unfortunately I am on ps5 though.
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Its a pain in the butt but normally the other friends will go along with what works for the streamer
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The main thing is a few of my friends don’t have a pc, so discord isn’t the end all answer
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And if you are on PS5 but using a capcard I would just make them use discord on the phone or something as the cheapest solution
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Plus, talking in game chat to the opposing team is funny at times.
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Never dealt with the talking to the other team part so can't help on that one
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I may just have to do that if I can’t find an answer. It’s weird people are lowkey gate keeping the info and it’s irritating. Sorry if I lashed out. I’ve asked like 3 people I know who have PlayStation’s, and stream off their pc, while still being able to communicate with the PS party and game chat
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TenderSausage 9/9/2021 8:05 PM
This is a really common question, and you're right @scott, the available guides on this are incomplete
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But they all keep being vague.
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TenderSausage 9/9/2021 8:05 PM
And my appologies for not replying, I've been crying for 3 days with depression, quit my job yesterday... it's been a mess.
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Idk I've just used Discord always for two years
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TenderSausage
And my appologies for not replying, I've been crying for 3 days with depression, quit my job yesterday... it's been a mess.
Feel that lol
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Dude, I'm totally gatekeeping my info on the PS5 and Elgato gear that I don't have.
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TenderSausage 9/9/2021 8:06 PM
I'll put together something for you in a bit
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Thercio
Dude, I'm totally gatekeeping my info on the PS5 and Elgato gear that I don't have.
Not talking about you.
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TenderSausage
And my appologies for not replying, I've been crying for 3 days with depression, quit my job yesterday... it's been a mess.
Sausage my man you are perfectly fine. And you know you can reach out to me anytime needed man
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TenderSausage 9/9/2021 8:06 PM
I have every piece of Elgato HW, I just don't have any consoles to test with
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I have a Switch, I guess
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Thercio
Dude, I'm totally gatekeeping my info on the PS5 and Elgato gear that I don't have.
I said I’ve reached out to 3 people, unless I’ve DM’d you then you aren’t one of them
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TenderSausage 9/9/2021 8:07 PM
My fear is that I'm going to give you bad advice, since I don't have a PS5
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TenderSausage
I have every piece of Elgato HW, I just don't have any consoles to test with
If I don’t want to talk to game chat/party chat. Elgato is all I need right? Keep seeing something about the chat link, but no one really goes in depth with what it does.
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No worries, anything would be helpful at this point.
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TenderSausage 9/9/2021 8:08 PM
Let's take it back to #🔧│tech-support-archive and we can talk through it
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Shanecus
So Tender Sausage has helped hundreds in tech support over the last two years. When you asked about your name looks like people here gave you real suggestions? and you didn't replay back? And a few of us said we were just gone for awhile/ Like I'm out of state. It seems like you have a pretty quick take on things amigo
I'd say that pretty much sums it up so I'm going to leave it there for the moment. Thanks @Shanecus
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Yup yup
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Yes, my apologies. (edited)
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kingyogaflamee 9/11/2021 7:07 AM
What’s up y’all I’m kingyogaflamee, 22 and from Australia! I stream on twitch regularly between monster hunter, destiny jrpgs and a few other games!! Please to make ur acquaintance and hope we can all support each other!!
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Oh shit whoops wrong chat
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Morning all, any plans for the weekend?
8:49 AM
"morning" - time appropriate greeting
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Misio
Morning all, any plans for the weekend?
I wish but I just started uni :(
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I think my plan is to celebrate my homies birthday then do some streaming keep the streak alive