off-topic
LOL
Wha.... Whe... Your username.... When How Why 
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Wha.... Whe... Your username.... When How Why
Beans will never die
If it was call centre or customer service you're allowed to bitch, that kinda work is oppressive imo
it was called "order administration", we took in customer... situations? and fixed them. we only called customers if we lacked information. ... of course later we had to take calls for a good 2 months though, or was it 3? it was hellish because they barely taught us anything about the products or how to do it, we had a two-day introduction and then they threw us to the wolves.
it was called "order administration", we took in customer... situations? and fixed them. we only called customers if we lacked information. ... of course later we had to take calls for a good 2 months though, or was it 3? it was hellish because they barely taught us anything about the products or how to do it, we had a two-day introduction and then they threw us to the wolves.
Muthafuckas
it was called "order administration", we took in customer... situations? and fixed them. we only called customers if we lacked information. ... of course later we had to take calls for a good 2 months though, or was it 3? it was hellish because they barely taught us anything about the products or how to do it, we had a two-day introduction and then they threw us to the wolves.
I feel like that is what most companies do. "Oh, you never operated a piece of heavy machinery before?" "Ok, get to work on said heavy machinery and we'll teach you as you go" Nevermind said machine can KILL you if you type in one line of code wrong or make one mistake in a 10 step process.
i'mma go mow the lawn angrily
i'mma go mow the lawn angrily
Nah cmon Brick, the grass loves you, nature loves you. Humanity is just.... unbecoming sometimes
yeah I'll mow happily with music to listen to
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yeah I'll mow happily with music to listen to
The only way to mow the lawn. You'll even protect your hearing at the same time. Win Win.
well with noise canceling headphones. some people just raise the volume of their airbuds and then think their hearing is safe because the music drowns out the noise
Yeah true.
Honey nut queerios 
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Honey nut queerios
Livin the life of a boss playa
Hood rat bitch! 
You too Raggo
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Rest in Peace Rebecca Cheptegei Nothing like that should ever happen but we live in a cruel world.
So insane 
So insane
Maybe people will see why I get how I get around certain dudes
Maybe people will see why I get how I get around certain dudes
I totally get it man. 
Good morning yall, hope your day is democratic af
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well the space marine 2 will be for some people who love chuck norris fight style 
Space Marine 2 gives me third person DOOM vibes and I'm here for it
the only game i never thought to play cuz idk why lol
To each their own, I suppose! I love a good power fantasy and mindless violence so I'll likely pick it up if it goes on sale some time
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yea this game is not for all but its not bad like some other titles came this year R.I.P concord
R.I.P concord
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To each their own, I suppose! I love a good power fantasy and mindless violence so I'll likely pick it up if it goes on sale some time
seems great lol
play this song while playing hell divers 2
#music-lounge 
The people buying Space Marine 2
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Who playing space marine 2
Check #other-games-chat , bunch of people gettin on it
The people buying Space Marine 2
You know I can't help being sassy
Honey nut queerios?
Hahahaha Nate is funny. Good morning llama 
Morning ragg why everyone leave when I come in the room.
why everyone leave when I come in the room.
Is it the beans?
Naaa it could never be the beans 
the beans are beautiful
the beans are beautiful
Hi, everyone I'm looking for a bussiness partner right now. The ideal candidate should be trustworthy bussiness minded person. Tech skills is plus but not essential. This is a very long-term bussiness so I need just serious person. Hit me up if you think you are the one.
And you decide that the best place for this is... the Helldivers Discord?
Naaa it could never be the beans the beans are beautiful
the beans are beautiful
well at least you talking to me. How’s your day going? You got work or school?
Hi, everyone I'm looking for a bussiness partner right now. The ideal candidate should be trustworthy bussiness minded person. Tech skills is plus but not essential. This is a very long-term bussiness so I need just serious person. Hit me up if you think you are the one.
Hello. I am a Nigerian Prince, looking to transport gold from Africa to Europe and I am in need of a trustworthy business partner
Hello. I am a Nigerian Prince, looking to transport gold from Africa to Europe and I am in need of a trustworthy business partner
all is right, but not gold, diamond, tons of diamond i mean, haha
Hi, everyone I'm looking for a bussiness partner right now. The ideal candidate should be trustworthy bussiness minded person. Tech skills is plus but not essential. This is a very long-term bussiness so I need just serious person. Hit me up if you think you are the one.
You are look for business partner by fren, you should contact my fren Mohammed Bean Salman
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Honey nut queerios?
Good morning Dalai Llamabeans
dm me the word
It’s beans
Good morning Dalai Llamabeans
Good morningggg honey nut queerios
Cheerios is pretty good
I love them, and Honey Nut Cornflakes
well at least you talking to me. How’s your day going? You got work or school?
Hahaha I’ll always talk to you llama! My day is good! No work so I am relaxing and got good sleep. You?
Cheerios is pretty good
It's even better if you can drive past a cheerio factory. It smells so good for about a mile near it.
Random question: how do I check my discord username?
Like the server one or your personal account one
Like the server one or your personal account one
Personal. I need it for my school.
Personal. I need it for my school.
Just tap on your name, says your account is rinshin_
DDDDDEAD CHAT
I had to go shopping so I can make curry, Potatorekt
Ragnotato
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Just tap on your name, says your account is rinshin_
Thank you, my brother, I'll treat you to a meal one day.
Thank you, my brother, I'll treat you to a meal one day.
No need, just do well at school and absorb as much as you can
I had to go shopping so I can make curry, Potatorekt
Hahaha. That sounds delicious today’s my cooking day but I’m waiting for @Llama to board my ship so I can cook while we play.
Hahaha. That sounds delicious today’s my cooking day but I’m waiting for @Llama to board my ship so I can cook while we play.
Ragnotasking, nice
Thank you, my brother, I'll treat you to a meal one day.
Ragnotasking, nice
you got great puns man
But I got that silver tongue
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Totally for sure cheesy but you got mad skillz
Takes one to know one foo!
@Ragnorekt_ without people to play off, comedy is mute, I can only do what I do because of people like you
Hahaha likewise man. Speaking of… where’s that provoking troll from yesterday. I must feed
Oop they’re no longer in the server lol nvm.
Bruh, morons like that never last long, that was pitiful
Bruh, morons like that never last long, that was pitiful
lol no doubt. You’re a nice troll buddy.
lol no doubt. You’re a nice troll buddy.
How fkn dare you!
Nice... I'll show you fkn nice
NiceGoregasm
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NiceGoregasm
You see that door over there Use the window
Nice... I'll show you fkn nice
show me.
Oh-oh, sounds like somebody needs another bowl of queerios because of hangry
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It's no good Rags, I can't do it
That’s what I thought 
It's no good Rags, I can't do it
Ruh roh Raggy
Ask @Hotdog on a leash I just DM him "fuck you"
That is false, by the time that this man has written this message he has not DM'ed me that
That is false, by the time that this man has written this message he has not DM'ed me that
It's not my scheduled time to tell you to GFY
It's not my scheduled time to tell you to GFY
What the hell why are you so mean to me? :( @Ragnorekt_ was the one who asked for it
What the hell why are you so mean to me? :( @Ragnorekt_ was the one who asked for it
Why the fake sad face
Why the fake sad face
Because you're forcing me to put you back in your cage with a ball gag in your mouth you gimp fuck
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What the hell why are you so mean to me? :( @Ragnorekt_ was the one who asked for it
lol
Hahaha. That sounds delicious today’s my cooking day but I’m waiting for @Llama to board my ship so I can cook while we play.
I’m at work Just got off a bridge call cause one of our module access broke or something. Come to find out the vendor removed some access and never told us it was because some security measures on their side. While everyone here in my company was freaking out
Just got off a bridge call cause one of our module access broke or something. Come to find out the vendor removed some access and never told us it was because some security measures on their side. While everyone here in my company was freaking out
This week blows. Everything is breaking on the backend
This week blows. Everything is breaking on the backend
The week is almost over! You got this llamabeans 
This week blows. Everything is breaking on the backend
I broke my backend couple of weeks ago
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I’m at work Just got off a bridge call cause one of our module access broke or something. Come to find out the vendor removed some access and never told us it was because some security measures on their side. While everyone here in my company was freaking out
Just got off a bridge call cause one of our module access broke or something. Come to find out the vendor removed some access and never told us it was because some security measures on their side. While everyone here in my company was freaking out
Ugh that sounds awful! Sorry you’re having to deal with that!
does steam have different price on each country?
Some games might opt in to do regional pricing so that it is economically less taxing on people in those countries to afford a game
Some games might opt in to do regional pricing so that it is economically less taxing on people in those countries to afford a game
I see I thought it was weird that the standard edition being so much cheaper than what people said
i admit it the game got under my skin today but long live democracy 
@Ragnorekt_ @KateKat26 thanks guys. I’m hanging in there. Hope you’re having a good day at least.
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@Ragnorekt_ @KateKat26 thanks guys. I’m hanging in there. Hope you’re having a good day at least.
Idk maybe one too many emoji?
Rag no worries I got u covered and I understand ❤️
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I’m at work Just got off a bridge call cause one of our module access broke or something. Come to find out the vendor removed some access and never told us it was because some security measures on their side. While everyone here in my company was freaking out
Just got off a bridge call cause one of our module access broke or something. Come to find out the vendor removed some access and never told us it was because some security measures on their side. While everyone here in my company was freaking out
Damn, that sucks
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The story of this channel, haha. People abused it and it got removed
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It’s fine buddy we are still having fun 
lmao
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Has anyone already watched Silo on AppleTV+?
Yeah really liked it
Yeah really liked it
The series is really exciting and makes you want more.
The series is really exciting and makes you want more.
Been waiting ages for S2, November this year or something
Been waiting ages for S2, November this year or something
Ah yes. Heard that too. Well - I have to finish season 1 
thoughts on space marine 2 so far? i think its good
Is killing Xenos fun?
Ah yes. Heard that too. Well - I have to finish season 1
Enjoy mate
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Hello
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Meow
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How are you Moe?
Good good 
, and u dear?
, and u dear?
Click to see original message
with a little bit of WD-40 and a lighter
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Good good , and u dear?
, and u dear?
I'm good! Just got home from work a little while ago. So I'm just chillin out now.
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with a little bit of WD-40 and a lighter
I'm good! Just got home from work a little while ago. So I'm just chillin out now.
Amazing 
, with some chicken nuggets on the air fryer and a very cold coke with some mayo/tchup sauce and it will be even better
, with some chicken nuggets on the air fryer and a very cold coke with some mayo/tchup sauce and it will be even better
Guys where can i ask the community managers questions Just like ping them or is there a specific channel ?
you can wait until you see 1 around the server (usually in general chat 1) or you can ping the role itself. just don't over do the pings and only use it for legitimate questions, please
does anybody know how to stop teamkills lol
"Hey guys can we kick this asshole" in the chat
you can wait until you see 1 around the server (usually in general chat 1) or you can ping the role itself. just don't over do the pings and only use it for legitimate questions, please
Alrighty thank you
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does anybody know how to stop teamkills lol
Suddam buddy it’s just the game demand it
"Hey guys can we kick this asshole" in the chat
im on playstation lol i cant type that fast and it was litterally the entire team
Suddam buddy it’s just the game demand it
i got fed up and dropped my hellpod on their heads lmao
Amazing , with some chicken nuggets on the air fryer and a very cold coke with some mayo/tchup sauce and it will be even better
, with some chicken nuggets on the air fryer and a very cold coke with some mayo/tchup sauce and it will be even better
Mmm. Idk what I'm having for dinner. It's my roommates day to choose and she hasn't gotten home from work yet.
i got fed up and dropped my hellpod on their heads lmao
Weeeeeeellll
Weeeeeeellll
i brought freedom and democracy to the space between their head and their chest (i blew a hole in it)
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Mmm. Idk what I'm having for dinner. It's my roommates day to choose and she hasn't gotten home from work yet.
Okay sounds like a plan for later then, but keep that in ur mind cuz all it take to get good food is a chicken nugget in air fryer 
i brought freedom and democracy to the space between their head and their chest (i blew a hole in it)
Kinda lame but if it’s for one time why not
with a little bit of WD-40 and a lighter
Helldiver training complete
Okay sounds like a plan for later then, but keep that in ur mind cuz all it take to get good food is a chicken nugget in air fryer
Chicken nuggets does sound good. Lol Maybe I'll stop at the store tmr
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Chicken nuggets does sound good. Lol Maybe I'll stop at the store tmr
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@Matt Craig @Ragnorekt_ sleeping soon or a second round?
Nah, I'll be here for like 4 more hours
Nah, I'll be here for like 4 more hours
I only asked cuz I thought u left work
I only asked cuz I thought u left work
Got that right XD
Got that right XD
Oh yeah 
@Matt Craig hd?
Nah, 480p XD
Attempt at a joke, nevermind
I got it dw
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sorry lol im probably slow at catching those jokes. It’s not you
Processing at 240p?
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@Matt Craig @Ragnorekt_ yall still playing HD or no? Im off now
I’m down no cooking tonight though @Moe | SES Light of Eternity you can join us!
@Moe | SES Light of Eternity you can join us!
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@Llama hope you're having a better day bro
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Processing at 240p?
Nah I. Got it now
I’m down no cooking tonight though @Moe | SES Light of Eternity you can join us!
@Moe | SES Light of Eternity you can join us!
Ohh hell yeah
I’m down no cooking tonight though @Moe | SES Light of Eternity you can join us!
@Moe | SES Light of Eternity you can join us!
Am coming now
Am coming now
Aight well @Llama is playing wukong but we can go on a sample hunt and mess around lol
Aight well @Llama is playing wukong but we can go on a sample hunt and mess around lol
Am down to everything but tell ur plan whenever u feel u need to say it
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Nah I. Got it now
Sorry just a little spin off his joke I'm still transitioning from work brain
I'm still transitioning from work brain
Aight well @Llama is playing wukong but we can go on a sample hunt and mess around lol
Mmm I’m not really in the greatest mood to play with right now. Maybe later if you’re still up for it. Sorry rag
screw politics, how yall be eating your PB&J's? Jelly side up peanut butter side down? or peanut butter side up jelly side down?
i never have tried it
Mmm I’m not really in the greatest mood to play with right now. Maybe later if you’re still up for it. Sorry rag
How can we cheer you up? You're always being nice to everyone else, your turn
Sorry just a little spin off his joke I'm still transitioning from work brain
I'm still transitioning from work brain
Hey hey. That work brain is my bane 
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if you could spend only one more day on earth what would you do
Sacrifice it so everyone else could have the day
Sacrifice it so everyone else could have the day
If you get 2 people to do the same, you avert a crysis
If you get 2 people to do the same, you avert a crysis
You gonna do it with me?
You gonna do it with me?
I'm already immortal, not sure if this applies to me XD
I'm already immortal, not sure if this applies to me XD
Fine you suck
Fine you suck
Happy to help XD
Happy to help XD
Can always count on you
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Hey hey. That work brain is my bane ️
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Fair, 12 hours a day really be bleeding into my off days, idek what day it is anymore
Fair, 12 hours a day really be bleeding into my off days, idek what day it is anymore
Yeah... I like 12 hour days, because of the free time I get after, but damn am I ever tired coming home. I got 8 hour days now and I miss it
Yeah... I like 12 hour days, because of the free time I get after, but damn am I ever tired coming home. I got 8 hour days now and I miss it
Same here used to be 8 hours for 5 day weeks and then mandatory overtime without knowing when I'll get off now I'm on 12 hour shifts for 3 or 4 days out of the week and have a for sure schedule
Yeah... I like 12 hour days, because of the free time I get after, but damn am I ever tired coming home. I got 8 hour days now and I miss it
At least you are still young and full of life
At least you are still young and full of life
Young... Yes. Full of life.... Ehhhh, that's debatable...
Who? The disrespectful doctor?
Omg haiiiii :33333333
Who? The disrespectful doctor?
the very same
How yall doin tonight
Haven't been able to relax till about 30 mins ago, but a pretty good day, you?
just got this game for my birthday!
Happy Birthday
just got this game for my birthday!
hbd!
Hru all?
Ehh, not so much Injured
Injured
Ehh, not so much Injured
Injured
What happened?
‘Helldivers 2’ Reveals, Deletes The Illuminate’s Arrival On The Map https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/09/04/helldivers-2-reveals-deletes-the-illuminates-arrival-on-the-map/
Spoilers please
Spoilers please
Wrong discord chat, but piss off regardless
Suck your mum, that's why we say here
Suck your dad queer
Suck your mum, that's why we say here
.... mums don't work like that ....
Good banter, goodnight
.... mums don't work like that ....
They do, trust me
They do, trust me
Mmm I’m not really in the greatest mood to play with right now. Maybe later if you’re still up for it. Sorry rag
No worries llama I hope you feel better! We will try again whenever you’re feeling better
People can't even use imagination when cussin anymore, so lame
get creative like I had to do when learning sign language !! i have so many insults that only exist bc they're fun to sign
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get creative like I had to do when learning sign language !! i have so many insults that only exist bc they're fun to sign
bs sentences like "My badass lizard has a gun. He hates your raggedy boots, you cereal fiending bitch"
People can't even use imagination when cussin anymore, so lame
You hear that boomer?
You hear that boomer?
omg my friend got me food YIPPIE ‼️
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You hear that boomer?
Actually no I didn't, let me turn my hearing aid up
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What's funny is that I'm in better shape than some people in their 20s
I'd believe it
Haiiiii
Why are you a king of :3 I thought we had a server cat here
Speaking of which. OASIS DISSAPEARED Oh Nyowwww
She left months ago
She left months ago
Oh darn. ... We need a new cat...
Anyone played space marine 2 yet?
108 minutes in it's a linear campaign so far
I just got home from watching the 2nd beetlejuice... it's definitely... weird- but it was a good movie
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Anyone getting "Unable to join game" error or know how to fix it?
#troubleshooting might have some answers, few people have had the same issue I think
I just got home from watching the 2nd beetlejuice... it's definitely... weird- but it was a good movie
So would you recommend watching it then? Or is it a wait for release movie?
So would you recommend watching it then? Or is it a wait for release movie?
Um, it depends... If you are a big Beetlejuice fan, then I'd recommend seeing it. But if not then I'd wait. I've been a fan since a kid, so I was excited to see it in theaters. Lol
if i buy a ps3 space marine 1 disc, can i play that on my ps5?
Nope
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with enough emulators, sheer will and cocaine, anything is possible
I mewn... If you emulate the emulator, wouldn't the emulator be able to emulate the game...
Welcome to the world of Minecraft, where creativity doesn’t just help you craft, it’s essential to one’s survival! Four misfits—Garrett “The Garbage Man” Garrison (Momoa), Henry (Hansen), Natalie (Myers) and Dawn (Brooks)—find themselves struggling with ordinary problems when they are suddenly pulled through a mysterious portal into the Overworld: a bizarre, cubic wonderland that thrives on imagination. To get back home, they’ll have to master this world (and protect it from evil things like Piglins and Zombies, too) while embarking on a magical quest with an unexpected, expert crafter, Steve (Black). Together, their adventure will challenge all five to be bold and to reconnect with the qualities that make each of them uniquely creative…the very skills they need to thrive back in the real world.
the minecraft movie is such a joke
the minecraft movie is such a joke
10 years and 150 million bucks for this garbage
10 years and 150 million bucks for this garbage
yeah seriously its such a shame
Welcome to the world of Minecraft, where creativity doesn’t just help you craft, it’s essential to one’s survival! Four misfits—Garrett “The Garbage Man” Garrison (Momoa), Henry (Hansen), Natalie (Myers) and Dawn (Brooks)—find themselves struggling with ordinary problems when they are suddenly pulled through a mysterious portal into the Overworld: a bizarre, cubic wonderland that thrives on imagination. To get back home, they’ll have to master this world (and protect it from evil things like Piglins and Zombies, too) while embarking on a magical quest with an unexpected, expert crafter, Steve (Black). Together, their adventure will challenge all five to be bold and to reconnect with the qualities that make each of them uniquely creative…the very skills they need to thrive back in the real world.
I'm am I the only one who kind of feel looking forward to the new movie Although I'm fine with the designs but Jack Black funny yet doesn't fit the bill
10 years and 150 million bucks for this garbage
Hater
So true so real Founder3 seems to be having a stroke smh my head 
If I see a chef burning my french toast in the kitchen I don't need to wait for it to be served to me before I criticise it. Sure it may turn out unexpectedly well but first impressions are highly important and is what people base their opinions on
I know first impressions are everything but I just like to wait till release but I respect your opinions
Also I'm sure the movie is going to do well in the box office because it's Minecraft
People are gona watch it to clown on it
People are gona watch it to clown on it
dead meme with the clown
People are gona watch it to clown on it
And it's gonna make a billion dollars doing it
Unironically minecraft is in "too big to fail" territory. Parents bringing their kids will make it profitable, there's no need for the movie to actually be good
remind me of yesterday someone talks about in a different Discord Channel talks about how this movie is going to fail ( do you not know that Minecraft is like one of the most influential and popular games of all time) although I would say Minecraft kind of died down in more recent years but it's so relatively popular and I'm going to expect at least he'll do a lot of money back in the box office
Welcome to the world of Minecraft, where creativity doesn’t just help you craft, it’s essential to one’s survival! Four misfits—Garrett “The Garbage Man” Garrison (Momoa), Henry (Hansen), Natalie (Myers) and Dawn (Brooks)—find themselves struggling with ordinary problems when they are suddenly pulled through a mysterious portal into the Overworld: a bizarre, cubic wonderland that thrives on imagination. To get back home, they’ll have to master this world (and protect it from evil things like Piglins and Zombies, too) while embarking on a magical quest with an unexpected, expert crafter, Steve (Black). Together, their adventure will challenge all five to be bold and to reconnect with the qualities that make each of them uniquely creative…the very skills they need to thrive back in the real world.
Arrowhead is not worthy of my apology. Minecraft story mode is.
Arrowhead is not worthy of my apology. Minecraft story mode is.
I don't know why the sudden hate a Minecraft story mode they've been talking about on Twitter last time I checked people really like Minecraft story mode ( the first four episodes where is a bit more of a continuous story while the rest of the first season was a bit more stand-alone Adventures and then season 2 what's a bit more balanced storytelling although can you come up with a much better then just the admin)
yes but is it like its own standalone game, a film, a tv series, a visual novel?
Big scary mutated wither has eyes that suck up the earth and u fight it
Big scary mutated wither has eyes that suck up the earth and u fight it
How is the western front mr paul
How is the western front mr paul
All quiet. Over
And it's gonna make a billion dollars doing it
I am gona wait till i can watch it on tv
All quiet. Over
o7
How is the western front mr paul
omg hatsune miku... you are going to jail for tax evasion
omg hatsune miku... you are going to jail for tax evasion
Im not paying my taxes
boo.
i knew a guy who'd lose internet if it got too cloudy or something
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at least it's not australia. they seem to struggle with interwebs connectzione.
Yeah our internet companies suck ass
Hello. Anyone wanna play with explosives
You talking treason on the bug front?
Fixed
lol on the bug front right…. RIGHT?
Yeh
lol I’m down DM me
What the fuck just happened to me I drank 3 monster energy drinks like 7 hours ago, didnt feel any different, now i made a cup of nescafe and are very energetic what did they put in this shit?? uranium????
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I caved and just spend almost $100 on a single game -.-
Coulda spent that money on drugs
Coulda spent that money on drugs
But I caved and bought Space Marines 2 instead
Coulda spent that money on drugs
LOL! Good morning you lump! 
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LOL! Good morning you lump!
Sup hoodrat
But I caved and bought Space Marines 2 instead
Not everyone can be perfect I guess 
meh
Why?
Why?
life
surprises me to see how many people are still yapping here
Wdym?
life
I don't understand what you mean by that
I don't understand what you mean by that
Life hasn't been ideal
I don't understand what you mean by that
you'll understand when you get older
you'll understand when you get older
I'm 22
Life hasn't been ideal
Why do you say that?
you'll understand when you get older
Settle down gramps, let's get your meds and favourite cushion
i used to be with it, then they changed what it was. Now what it is, is strange and scary to me. It will happen to you.
My dad is cooler than me and more in tune with current trends than I am
The good thing about working about a lot of stuff you really like is ... well, it's obvious, isn't it? I just said you like it! The backside is when everything comes at the same time. 
Jeebus geez sweet Louise bees neez and anything else that fits in that context and rhymes with that.
Jeebus geez sweet Louise bees neez and anything else that fits in that context and rhymes with that.
Also, HEWWOO!
The two beards have arrived 
The two beards have arrived
They have. 
what's a 5th hour teacher
You must not be American, in US schools, we have 7 hours, 7 classes
You must not be American, in US schools, we have 7 hours, 7 classes
you got that right, i wasn't aware of that terminology