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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
well yeah but also anywhere else
If you're primarily looking on the internet, particularly in gaming, anime etc. spaces, you're mostly going to find men
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If you're primarily looking on the internet, particularly in gaming, anime etc. spaces, you're mostly going to find men
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:36 PM
i mean that is true... but i mean if i go into a random girly place its gonna be very weird (edited)
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What do you mean? There is no woman in where you live?
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:37 PM
well I mean its a rural mining town
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If you're primarily looking on the internet, particularly in gaming, anime etc. spaces, you're mostly going to find men
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:38 PM
But the only reason i'd be looking in gaming spaces, etc. is because its nice to have a common interest to become friends (edited)
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
well I mean its a rural mining town
Yeah, it makes sense now. Sorry, sbout it
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Min
If you're primarily looking on the internet, particularly in gaming, anime etc. spaces, you're mostly going to find men
to be fair, a lot of women are in those spaces but try to boy-mode cause as someone whose genderfluid, when i present more openly fem in larger spaces uhhh
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
But the only reason i'd be looking in gaming spaces, etc. is because its nice to have a common interest to become friends (edited)
I hear that for sure. I'm just stating the obvious I suppose lol Anyway, good luck!
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to be fair, a lot of women are in those spaces but try to boy-mode cause as someone whose genderfluid, when i present more openly fem in larger spaces uhhh
Absolutely. Unfortunately gaming spaces are..... Often unsafe for women (and other minorities but I think most noticeably women)
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Absolutely. Unfortunately gaming spaces are..... Often unsafe for women (and other minorities but I think most noticeably women)
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:41 PM
i guess so but then you gotta wonder because there are a lot of transfem people here... and it might be just as unsafe for them as it is straight girls (edited)
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
i guess so but then you gotta wonder because there are a lot of transfem people here... and it might be just as unsafe for them as it is straight girls (edited)
As unsafe or even more so. It's unfortunate and tiring but here we are lol
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As unsafe or even more so. It's unfortunate and tiring but here we are lol
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:44 PM
yeah its super unfortunate... so many men try to exploit people for personal pleasure its digsuting
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see with me im like louis armstrong all ya gotta do is gimmie a "kiss to build a dream on"
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and I genuinely care about anyone i go into a relationship into as long as they are loyal in return
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
aw well onto the next girl who will love me
Dareo | Paragon of Family Values 6/28/2024 3:49 PM
You do you but every guy should focus on themselves first. Go chase other goals first! It’s really healthy (edited)
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
its crazy tho of all the people i meet basically none of them are girls
Fantasy, you know
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Fantasy, you know
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:50 PM
ok i retract that i mean none of them are my age or are into what i like
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Dareo | Paragon of Family Values
You do you but every guy should focus on themselves first. Go chase other goals first! It’s really healthy (edited)
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:50 PM
oh this happened 2 months ago i've already gotten a new job and gone back to the gym and i've been being a health nut rn
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
ok i retract that i mean none of them are my age or are into what i like
At sixty nine 'pineapple' still fine
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At sixty nine 'pineapple' still fine
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:51 PM
AYO
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i've moved on its just the battle scars are still there yk? I dont really think ab it anymore (edited)
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Dareo | Paragon of Family Values 6/28/2024 3:54 PM
Great! I only started dating when I was done with uni. Had a leadership job and learned how to play guitar. Those were my goals and learning skills is for the whole life for sure! Now I’m married and got two kids and that all happened as a side effect. I know it’s not the same for everyone but pursuing oneself leads to success in every situation! And if you fail you succeeded learning how not to do it xD
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Dareo | Paragon of Family Values
Great! I only started dating when I was done with uni. Had a leadership job and learned how to play guitar. Those were my goals and learning skills is for the whole life for sure! Now I’m married and got two kids and that all happened as a side effect. I know it’s not the same for everyone but pursuing oneself leads to success in every situation! And if you fail you succeeded learning how not to do it xD
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:55 PM
Exactly! i did the best I could and in the end I learned a lot about myself and my interests in women (edited)
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not counting the fact she left for my ex best friend
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but thats besides the point
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Dareo | Paragon of Family Values
Great! I only started dating when I was done with uni. Had a leadership job and learned how to play guitar. Those were my goals and learning skills is for the whole life for sure! Now I’m married and got two kids and that all happened as a side effect. I know it’s not the same for everyone but pursuing oneself leads to success in every situation! And if you fail you succeeded learning how not to do it xD
Learning to play guitar. pros: now you know how to play guitar cons: wife and 2 kids
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Learning to play guitar. pros: now you know how to play guitar cons: wife and 2 kids
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 3:57 PM
LMFAOO SO TRUE
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Learning to play guitar. pros: now you know how to play guitar cons: wife and 2 kids
Dareo | Paragon of Family Values 6/28/2024 3:58 PM
not a con in my book xD she found me at work btw. not while playing guitar
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
LMFAOO SO TRUE
Could be worse. If youll try to learn how to play the triangle.
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Could be worse. If youll try to learn how to play the triangle.
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 4:02 PM
what chick would dig me playin the triangle
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"Wow you really hit that triangle real good honey"
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
what chick would dig me playin the triangle
Ones, that really can 'DIG' you shoulder deep?
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Ones, that really can 'DIG' you shoulder deep?
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 4:04 PM
beats me
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ok imma go on that memed on 4chan dating site and go and find friends to play fallout 76 with
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its gonna be funny if someone actually responds
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
ok imma go on that memed on 4chan dating site and go and find friends to play fallout 76 with
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TheBuffalord 6/28/2024 4:06 PM
hola
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 4:06 PM
What? I need people to play 76 with
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TheBuffalord 6/28/2024 4:06 PM
i have returned from the shadow realm
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TheBuffalord
i have returned from the shadow realm
Yay
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
What? I need people to play 76 with
Well, its still boring, even with "finally arrived new territories"
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TheBuffalord 6/28/2024 4:08 PM
fighting the shadow people is like doing a level 9 helldive with just a base sidearm
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Well, its still boring, even with "finally arrived new territories"
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 4:08 PM
Well I enjoy it and thats all that really matters right?
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I mean sure skyline valley is sort of mid but its alright
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Triangle
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
Well I enjoy it and thats all that really matters right?
Hell yeah, that's the kind of attitude I love to see
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
I mean sure skyline valley is sort of mid but its alright
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 4:09 PM
but after all i'm level 36 so i haven't played the full game yet
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Hell yeah, that's the kind of attitude I love to see
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 4:10 PM
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
but after all i'm level 36 so i haven't played the full game yet
Well, i can join in journey if you want, but globally its still not so good as it could be
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Well, i can join in journey if you want, but globally its still not so good as it could be
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 4:14 PM
oh 100%
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it but it still has lots of potential which is good
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
ok imma go on that memed on 4chan dating site and go and find friends to play fallout 76 with
You’ll find a discord kitten this way, but the fun part is that they’ll actually be a middle aged obese man with an unkept house, hair, and beard
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SaigeB
You’ll find a discord kitten this way, but the fun part is that they’ll actually be a middle aged obese man with an unkept house, hair, and beard
And?
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SaigeB
You’ll find a discord kitten this way, but the fun part is that they’ll actually be a middle aged obese man with an unkept house, hair, and beard
The damn dream
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Rock || 22nd Queerdivers officer 6/28/2024 4:35 PM
Join the 22nd queerdivers brigade today!
3diverSalute 2
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and what
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Rock || 22nd Queerdivers officer
Join the 22nd queerdivers brigade today!
Morale Officer Cat ACE 6/28/2024 4:38 PM
real
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yessir
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Morale Officer Cat ACE 6/28/2024 4:45 PM
please join we're begging yo- i mean huh
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I do love me some queers
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Rock || 22nd Queerdivers officer 6/28/2024 5:06 PM
Please join we have plenty of room in the basement
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Oh we have femboys did I mention that
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I_sea_Cats 6/28/2024 5:08 PM
2diverSquint
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they've done invaded off topic
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I do love me some queers
The Sherif 6/28/2024 5:09 PM
Thaaaats kinda gay
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Exactly
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they've done invaded off topic
who is they
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I_sea_Cats 6/28/2024 5:10 PM
22nd
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Rock || 22nd Queerdivers officer 6/28/2024 5:10 PM
We’ve always been here
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@DNO right?
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good evening
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and yes, as the leader of off-topic, I can confirm that they've always been here
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mind you, this is a relatively dead channel
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Rock || 22nd Queerdivers officer
@DNO right?
The Sherif 6/28/2024 5:14 PM
I'm pretty sure @I_sea_Cats was making a joke, not saying that you're new
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Rock || 22nd Queerdivers officer 6/28/2024 5:15 PM
I am aware of that yes
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The Sherif 6/28/2024 5:15 PM
Ah my bad it just didn't seem like that when you asked dno for proof
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tagging me to confirm that at 1AM in the morning is usually a death sentence
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I'm pretty sure @I_sea_Cats was making a joke, not saying that you're new
I_sea_Cats 6/28/2024 5:16 PM
correct
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MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:16 PM
I wish we could get a rival human faction in helldivers
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Like Mercenaries or something like that.
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I wish we could get a rival human faction in helldivers
The Sherif 6/28/2024 5:16 PM
Undemocratic thoughts I hear?
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Undemocratic thoughts I hear?
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:17 PM
Helldivers should add a Trench Warfare Update with the Bots. The automatons would walk slowly towards you hitting you with everything they got and you need to hold all the defensive lines and fall back if you lose a defensive line. If would be a grinding fest
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MARSOC_Rmc
Helldivers should add a Trench Warfare Update with the Bots. The automatons would walk slowly towards you hitting you with everything they got and you need to hold all the defensive lines and fall back if you lose a defensive line. If would be a grinding fest
The Sherif 6/28/2024 5:18 PM
That would be hella fun, especially if you bring the mounted turret stratagem
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That would be hella fun, especially if you bring the mounted turret stratagem
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:19 PM
Yeah and you would have to experience the trench warfare and everything. Bots firing artillery and etc at you. You having to keep the line at hold to hold back the bots. Fighting in no man's land. Tanks, hulks and Striders advancing forward trying to break your will
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:20 PM
Guys thoughts on penetration, tanks?
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Guys thoughts on penetration, tanks?
The Sherif 6/28/2024 5:20 PM
Wdym
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:21 PM
Merp
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gonk gonk
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:21 PM
Gonky my beloved!! !
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Wdym
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:21 PM
When a shell is fired against a hard surface, (often metallic) there's a chance that the shell richoshet, (deflect) from the surface, depending on how angled the surface is. Penetration is when the shell successfully manages to pierce through the armor.
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gonk gonk
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:22 PM
get banned
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:22 PM
thats the gonk droid man you cant ban gonk for doing his thing
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welcome to offtopic nerd emoji
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When a shell is fired against a hard surface, (often metallic) there's a chance that the shell richoshet, (deflect) from the surface, depending on how angled the surface is. Penetration is when the shell successfully manages to pierce through the armor.
The Sherif 6/28/2024 5:22 PM
Ohhh I see what you mean, personally I think it makes sense but can be annoying at times.
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welcome to offtopic nerd emoji
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:22 PM
you made me timeouted for 30 min.
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:22 PM
Offtopic
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Deleted User
you made me timeouted for 30 min.
you were asking for discord kittens in gen chat 😭 just let it go and become a regular member :]
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Ronin Toriyama
Offtopic
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:23 PM
the topic of off topic is not on topic
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The Sherif
Ohhh I see what you mean, personally I think it makes sense but can be annoying at times.
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:23 PM
Yes I am currently drawing a tank that in theory will be "unpenetrable"
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
the topic of off topic is not on topic
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:23 PM
You've borken my brainer
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you were asking for discord kittens in gen chat 😭 just let it go and become a regular member :]
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:23 PM
ur probably french
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nope. i'm gonk (edited)
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Yes I am currently drawing a tank that in theory will be "unpenetrable"
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:23 PM
you sure?
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Guys thoughts on penetration, tanks?
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:24 PM
I wish we had 120mm APFDS Shells
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:24 PM
how do you plan on making it "unpenetrable?"
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
you sure?
(It will absolutely be very penetrable)
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most tank warfare isn't so much about the armor as the defense systems to prevent shaped charges from reaching the armor in the first place.
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:24 PM
yeah cause if the plan is to make is super armored all you gotta do is roll up a single M1 Abrams and shoot a APFSDS at it
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cause the APFSDS turns armor against the tank and uses it to murder the crew
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abrams arnt that great but those shells are scary
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since only reactive can do anything about a shaped charge. or armor so thick its basically going to be too logisticlaly nightmarish to field
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most tank warfare isn't so much about the armor as the defense systems to prevent shaped charges from reaching the armor in the first place.
Putting it on one single system is a fools errand for tank design. A working tank is a mass amount of design and systems all working in tandem, if you only excel at one then your tank will suck.
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:25 PM
Germans did that in ww2 with the maus and look where that got them
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
you sure?
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:25 PM
My idea is that the hull is going to be extremely angled, all directions, this will with guarantee deflect the incoming projectiles, but the problem is that they will continue to travel, so they may instead hit the turret or bounce somewhere else on the tank and cause significant damage, the crew will have be in a emotional rollercoaster at that point.
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yeah but angles dont really work against modern shaped charges
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especially anti tank weapons that can ensure a hit flat.
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:26 PM
maybe ye olden tanks but a metal rod made for punching through metal, is gunna punch through it
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My idea is that the hull is going to be extremely angled, all directions, this will with guarantee deflect the incoming projectiles, but the problem is that they will continue to travel, so they may instead hit the turret or bounce somewhere else on the tank and cause significant damage, the crew will have be in a emotional rollercoaster at that point.
This just sounds like tanks we made in the 80s. Sloped armor is far from new and it comes with the same side effects if not careful
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Putting it on one single system is a fools errand for tank design. A working tank is a mass amount of design and systems all working in tandem, if you only excel at one then your tank will suck.
absolutely, you do need armor still to deflect non-shaped charges but the most needed tank euqipment i think in the modern era is an active defense system, otherwise any shape charge will bust you open
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since only reactive can do anything about a shaped charge. or armor so thick its basically going to be too logisticlaly nightmarish to field
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:27 PM
armor so thick you can call it "Doom turtle." wait.
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Is dishonored a good game?
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Is dishonored a good game?
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:27 PM
Yes, get it now
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Foppy Fox
This just sounds like tanks we made in the 80s. Sloped armor is far from new and it comes with the same side effects if not careful
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:27 PM
That's problem, I will need to do more research on shells, I only know HE shells, APC, armor piercing. Does armor piercing deflect more easy compared to heat shells?
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Ronin Toriyama
Yes, get it now
Alright
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Idk enough about shells to say. I care a lot more about infantry equipment than armored vehicles since it's what I use irl
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That's problem, I will need to do more research on shells, I only know HE shells, APC, armor piercing. Does armor piercing deflect more easy compared to heat shells?
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:28 PM
No. It's depends on the Angle of Attack. Like there are many shells like HEAT,HESH, APBC, APDS, HEPF
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:29 PM
I just want people to play fallout 76 with who said I wanted a discord kitten
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:29 PM
Huh
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That's problem, I will need to do more research on shells, I only know HE shells, APC, armor piercing. Does armor piercing deflect more easy compared to heat shells?
D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:29 PM
HEAT = High Explosive Anti Tank HEAT is armour piercing
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That's problem, I will need to do more research on shells, I only know HE shells, APC, armor piercing. Does armor piercing deflect more easy compared to heat shells?
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:29 PM
The APFSDS Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS), long dart penetrator
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most HEAT is shaped charge which, unless you take action to disrupt the molten jet, will cut through most armor unless its insanely thick
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
The APFSDS Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS), long dart penetrator
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:30 PM
Aka Modern Day Spear
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MARSOC_Rmc
Aka Modern Day Spear
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:30 PM
made to hunt tanks
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
made to hunt tanks
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:30 PM
But also there are ATGM'S as well
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No. It's depends on the Angle of Attack. Like there are many shells like HEAT,HESH, APBC, APDS, HEPF
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:30 PM
My Idea is a tank with a low sillhouette, extremely angled armor, the angles are pointed in a direction so the shells deflect up against the air or down in the dirt.
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
I just want people to play fallout 76 with who said I wanted a discord kitten
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:31 PM
Besides I’m a dude that means I can sense a dude coming from a mile away
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel
HEAT = High Explosive Anti Tank HEAT is armour piercing
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:31 PM
I thought HEAT was explosive
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My Idea is a tank with a low sillhouette, extremely angled armor, the angles are pointed in a direction so the shells deflect up against the air or down in the dirt.
D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:31 PM
… you mean like a frisbee?
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:31 PM
It’s like a spider sense but for men
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My Idea is a tank with a low sillhouette, extremely angled armor, the angles are pointed in a direction so the shells deflect up against the air or down in the dirt.
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:31 PM
Modern Day MBT'S have armored that's sloped in the front to deflect rounds. Old tanks in WW2 had flat or curved armor
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
The APFSDS Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS), long dart penetrator
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:31 PM
I will not remember that name lol
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I thought HEAT was explosive
D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:31 PM
It is, it is also anti tank
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I thought HEAT was explosive
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:32 PM
Yeah it is. High Explosive Anti Tank
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:32 PM
Oh
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but there's only so much angled armor can do. to stop a good round, or an anti tank weapon that can just hit your flat angles. hence why an active protection system is neccesary and you can't just tank it out with armor and angles. (edited)
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but there's only so much angled armor can do. to stop a good round, or an anti tank weapon that can just hit your flat angles. hence why an active protection system is neccesary and you can't just tank it out with armor and angles. (edited)
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:32 PM
True
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But just 200 mm armor everywhere will do.
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:33 PM
And active protection is funny - you are shooting grenades at projectiles
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:33 PM
1Skull_saddiver
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:33 PM
which is why a tank that cant be penetrated is a neigh impossible task
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theres always a shell made for a certain tank
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which is why a tank that cant be penetrated is a neigh impossible task
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:33 PM
Not in the realms of science fiction
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:34 PM
The closest things I can think of is the USA Turtle nickname tank and the German's Maus
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:34 PM
The best you can do is keep the shell from hitting the tank
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the maus would be obliterated by sabot or HEAT
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
theres always a shell made for a certain tank
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:34 PM
This is true, but whatt if they created a system that automatically shots a counter-missile, granade against incoming projectiles/shells?
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:34 PM
yeah but SCI-FI seems to forget humanity will always find newer and better ways to obliterate tanks
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:34 PM
… that is already a thing
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This is true, but whatt if they created a system that automatically shots a counter-missile, granade against incoming projectiles/shells?
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:34 PM
they have.
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This is true, but whatt if they created a system that automatically shots a counter-missile, granade against incoming projectiles/shells?
counter missile, no, usually they have a grenade that bounces off the tank and detonates like a shotgun to take out an incoming shaped charge.
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counter missile, no, usually they have a grenade that bounces off the tank and detonates like a shotgun to take out an incoming shaped charge.
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:35 PM
But why is it so underrated? I have barely heard of this
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:35 PM
The main problem is having enough grenades to destroy every incoming shot
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:35 PM
i remeber a certain thing just like it actually if you played rainbow six siege i can sum it up in 1 word "You can stop worrying about grenades now."
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its not underrated, its just not something militaries want to give too much info on for obvious reasons.
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The main problem is having enough grenades to destroy every incoming shot
you don't need to destroy every shot. just destroy one or two, then you can win a tank engagement.
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its not underrated, its just not something militaries want to give too much info on for obvious reasons.
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:36 PM
I mean not popular or good enough.
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you don't need to destroy every shot. just destroy one or two, then you can win a tank engagement.
D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:36 PM
And it is super expensive
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:36 PM
like America, they only give info on it once its passed like 40 60 years?
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or warthunder leaks it what ever comes first.
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:36 PM
There is some stuff about APS rn, but not much
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Nocturnal | SES Fist of Iron 6/28/2024 5:36 PM
APS is expensive and only reliably works against shaped charge projectiles. It is ineffective as a whole vs Sabot darts.
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:37 PM
yeah Darts are kinda hard to stop they are made to turns tank crews into former tank crews.
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
or warthunder leaks it what ever comes first.
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:38 PM
Ah yes war thunder leaks that happen in thug shaker central
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
Ah yes war thunder leaks that happen in thug shaker central
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:38 PM
pretty sure thug shaker central was a minecraft server
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:38 PM
It was
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:39 PM
also unrelated im playing Cyberpunk Red table top here soon so theres that
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
also unrelated im playing Cyberpunk Red table top here soon so theres that
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:40 PM
Yessss i love cyberpunnnkkkkk lemmmeeee innnnnn
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D.I.V.E. Death Captain Steel 6/28/2024 5:41 PM
I need to go now bye
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:41 PM
Dude cyberpunk is kick ass
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Friday night firefights are cool asf (edited)
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
Yessss i love cyberpunnnkkkkk lemmmeeee innnnnn
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:42 PM
yknow its the table top version right?
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we are just basic generic Runners
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
yknow its the table top version right?
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:43 PM
Yea I am aware
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:43 PM
so you are aware every single augment you take lowers your humanity?
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:43 PM
Yes cyberpsychosis (edited)
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:43 PM
yes its an actual mechanic, go to low and then you hand your sheet over to the DM and they control you well, loosing it.
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you have to put your character in therapy to make sure they dont go bonkers
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:44 PM
And net running is basically just mini dungeons
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:44 PM
thats what im doing, net running. with another net runner, we got 2 net runners.
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:44 PM
And you fight daemons every level you go down in order to surf the net (edited)
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I’m more of a solo myself or an edge runner (imagine) (edited)
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:45 PM
Daemons are like an AI made to protect them, not there in every artichture usually black ices but not demons
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i know cause i just had a run down of it wensday so the info is pretty fresh in my head.
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MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 5:46 PM
I wish the Bradley APC had a 30, 40 or at least a 57 mm autocannon
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:46 PM
Same I read the entire guild online a year ago so imndigging through my brain
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:46 PM
Hmm, been meaning to mess around with the cyberpunk paper rpg (edited)
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:47 PM
I’d love to either be a solo or a ripperdoc
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Ripper doc on trauma team lol
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 5:47 PM
Doing a story with the trauma team sounds pretty rad
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The main problem is having enough grenades to destroy every incoming shot
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:47 PM
Locigal idea. Put the crew, roughly 3 man to minimize the space needed, in the back of the tank. Make the sillhoutte low so the tank is harder to detect and hit from a distance, now you have the have very sloped armor to keep the low sillhouette, and thats the point. Frontal armor should be very thick, of a robust yet light metal to keep the weight-power ratio stable, so that the tank can still be speedy, like 100mm or more, multiple layers of sloped armor. The 2 engines are located at the front, this also offers more safety, there is now 2 engines that can function, so if 1 gets destroyed they still have another one. The sloped armor at the front that forces shells to deflect away from the tank, away from the turret which is the weakspot. Turret is unmanned and uses an automatic loader, the turret is also small to keep the low sillhoutte, and very angled and uses 120 mm cannon, its armor is strong too, because its unmanned the crew will have better survivability. Ammunition and fuel should be located in the back of the tank, the sides of the tank are the 2nd most armored part of the tank and the sides are also slightly sloped with slat armor, other parts of the tank also has slat armor for better protection, integrated systems capable of shooting down incoming projectiles and drones are installed on key locations on the surface on the tank. (edited)
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:48 PM
Did you know ncpd fights cyberpsychos with cyberpsychos
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Locigal idea. Put the crew, roughly 3 man to minimize the space needed, in the back of the tank. Make the sillhoutte low so the tank is harder to detect and hit from a distance, now you have the have very sloped armor to keep the low sillhouette, and thats the point. Frontal armor should be very thick, of a robust yet light metal to keep the weight-power ratio stable, so that the tank can still be speedy, like 100mm or more, multiple layers of sloped armor. The 2 engines are located at the front, this also offers more safety, there is now 2 engines that can function, so if 1 gets destroyed they still have another one. The sloped armor at the front that forces shells to deflect away from the tank, away from the turret which is the weakspot. Turret is unmanned and uses an automatic loader, the turret is also small to keep the low sillhoutte, and very angled and uses 120 mm cannon, its armor is strong too, because its unmanned the crew will have better survivability. Ammunition and fuel should be located in the back of the tank, the sides of the tank are the 2nd most armored part of the tank and the sides are also slightly sloped with slat armor, other parts of the tank also has slat armor for better protection, integrated systems capable of shooting down incoming projectiles and drones are installed on key locations on the surface on the tank. (edited)
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:48 PM
The yapmister
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The yapmister
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:49 PM
and?
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quiet down kid
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:49 PM
Bro I’m a adult you turd
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:50 PM
I reported your comment.
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:50 PM
Good
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
Bro I’m a adult you turd
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:50 PM
you are childish, such a useless thing to say. why did you even say that?
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yapmister.
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:51 PM
Dude you wrote a Twitter threads worth of bonkers
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So I’m just being a little silly that’s all
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I wish the Bradley APC had a 30, 40 or at least a 57 mm autocannon
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:51 PM
idk it still blows up tanks fine with its current gun
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Dude you wrote a Twitter threads worth of bonkers
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:52 PM
It was a conversation, but I think its stupid of you to call me "yapmister" to annoy me and get a reaction. Grow up.
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It was a conversation, but I think its stupid of you to call me "yapmister" to annoy me and get a reaction. Grow up.
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:52 PM
I didn’t mean it rudely… jeez
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
I didn’t mean it rudely… jeez
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:52 PM
others can percive it as rude. understand that. you seem not too.
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:53 PM
Its obsolote lol
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It was a conversation, but I think its stupid of you to call me "yapmister" to annoy me and get a reaction. Grow up.
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:53 PM
And I’m gonna be honest your the one getting upset over me calling you the yapmister… let’s just let bi gones be bi gones and move one jeez
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And I’m gonna be honest your the one getting upset over me calling you the yapmister… let’s just let bi gones be bi gones and move one jeez
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:54 PM
Yeah I was upset and I hopefully teached you a lesson, ur an adult. you should know better than a teen.
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I wont move on before you learn and apologize
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Nocturnal | SES Fist of Iron 6/28/2024 5:54 PM
TOW missile go fwoosh
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Locigal idea. Put the crew, roughly 3 man to minimize the space needed, in the back of the tank. Make the sillhoutte low so the tank is harder to detect and hit from a distance, now you have the have very sloped armor to keep the low sillhouette, and thats the point. Frontal armor should be very thick, of a robust yet light metal to keep the weight-power ratio stable, so that the tank can still be speedy, like 100mm or more, multiple layers of sloped armor. The 2 engines are located at the front, this also offers more safety, there is now 2 engines that can function, so if 1 gets destroyed they still have another one. The sloped armor at the front that forces shells to deflect away from the tank, away from the turret which is the weakspot. Turret is unmanned and uses an automatic loader, the turret is also small to keep the low sillhoutte, and very angled and uses 120 mm cannon, its armor is strong too, because its unmanned the crew will have better survivability. Ammunition and fuel should be located in the back of the tank, the sides of the tank are the 2nd most armored part of the tank and the sides are also slightly sloped with slat armor, other parts of the tank also has slat armor for better protection, integrated systems capable of shooting down incoming projectiles and drones are installed on key locations on the surface on the tank. (edited)
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:54 PM
also the abrams shell we described earlier is made to get through armor any way possible
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:54 PM
bruh
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Yeah I was upset and I hopefully teached you a lesson, ur an adult. you should know better than a teen.
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:55 PM
Dude it’s online tomfoolery who the hell cares
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
also the abrams shell we described earlier is made to get through armor any way possible
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:55 PM
What the? What shell
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:55 PM
the Sabot the Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:55 PM
I’ll apologize but god damn…
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:55 PM
its a metal dart used to penitrate armor with like a tungsten rod
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
Dude it’s online tomfoolery who the hell cares
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:55 PM
I care, I have said it already.online tomfoolery christ.. it does not justify it.
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 5:56 PM
Depleted uranium traveling at the speed of sound
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
I’ll apologize but god damn…
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:56 PM
thanks!
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy
its a metal dart used to penitrate armor with like a tungsten rod
Nocturnal | SES Fist of Iron 6/28/2024 5:56 PM
Tungsten is for normies. We use Depleted Uranium because we're cool.
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Nocturnal | SES Fist of Iron
Tungsten is for normies. We use Depleted Uranium because we're cool.
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:57 PM
we gotta get rid of it somehow, why not dispense it into people we dont like?
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:57 PM
like tomfoolery fools
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:58 PM
it isnt ours so why should we care?
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Tungsten is for normies. We use Depleted Uranium because we're cool.
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:58 PM
tungsten is a swedish word
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@Moderator git this person outta the off topics
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:58 PM
heavy stone is the translation.
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:58 PM
i mean its a material
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@Moderator git this person outta the off topics
on it
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:59 PM
we have alot of, we already let the president drone stike anyone they dont like
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@Moderator git this person outta the off topics
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:59 PM
dude why? You always call the mods, is it fun? leave him alone, he means no harm
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on it
Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:59 PM
bro he means no harm, not justified.
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 5:59 PM
also looks kinda funny
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 5:59 PM
EXACTLY! SPOT ON I SAW WHAT YOU DELETED
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heavy stone is the translation.
Nocturnal | SES Fist of Iron 6/28/2024 5:59 PM
Tungsten (also called wolfram) is a chemical element; it has symbol W and atomic number 74. Tungsten is a rare metal found naturally on Earth almost exclusively as compounds with other elements. It was identified as a new element in 1781 and first isolated as a metal in 1783. Its important ores include scheelite and wolframite, the latter lendin...
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:00 PM
its called wolfram but tung-sten means heavy stone in transaltion (edited)
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dude why? You always call the mods, is it fun? leave him alone, he means no harm
The video he linked to was from a rage-bait youtuber and the video itself is full of lies and nonsense that breaks the rules of the server. simple as.
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@Foster @Deleted User Drop the subject and move on please.
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The video he linked to was from a rage-bait youtuber and the video itself is full of lies and nonsense that breaks the rules of the server. simple as.
Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:01 PM
Maybe that but you still seem like the "I am gonna tell mom guy" You did this too me too.
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@Foster @Deleted User Drop the subject and move on please.
Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:02 PM
sorry
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Anyways, have any of you played Sins of A Solar Empire 2?
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:02 PM
Nope And I dont care
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:03 PM
Noh, sounds familiar tho. Isn't it more space-y rts? Not the same as stellaris, but a more rts version of it
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Am forgor'd
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It's a 4x RTS kinda thing, easy to get into but offers depth if you want it.
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not as deep as Stellaris or Distant Worlds but it's quite fun.
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:04 PM
Yeah, I should prolly check it out. Cause as much as I enjoy stellaris and how in depth it gets, the mechanics for the game at times gets annoying on top of the constant shovel piles of dlc you gotta pay for
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:05 PM
Helldivers is Swedish
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Ronin Toriyama
Yeah, I should prolly check it out. Cause as much as I enjoy stellaris and how in depth it gets, the mechanics for the game at times gets annoying on top of the constant shovel piles of dlc you gotta pay for
Ye it's a good game, if you don't want to get the sequel (which is still in EA on Epic) you can get Rebellion from the first game which is very good. (edited)
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Ye it's a good game, if you don't want to get the sequel (which is still in EA on Epic) you can get Rebellion from the first game which is very good. (edited)
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:08 PM
Hmmst, how does it differ in terms of gameplay to stellaris? I'm interested to know how it differs
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Ye it's a good game, if you don't want to get the sequel (which is still in EA on Epic) you can get Rebellion from the first game which is very good. (edited)
Shadaurix2005 6/28/2024 6:09 PM
It seems fun in theory But it has such a learning curve I just get confused whenever o try to learn it
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:09 PM
Hmmst
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So Stellaris is far more zoomed out macro level where you are handling the affairs of a galaxy spanning empire. Sins hands you the reigns of a fleet or two and has you fighting over single systems (that range anywhere from 12 to 100 or more planets)
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:09 PM
Oooh, huh. Lot more local then it seems
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It's more RTS then 4x but the combat is slow enough that you can think and reinforce
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idk it still blows up tanks fine with its current gun
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:11 PM
Yeah but I wish it had more power. A 57 or even a 40mm Auto cannon could destroy and shred more
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:11 PM
Ahh, mandalore. I'll give it a glance sometime
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All ground military vehicles I know name off rn Hetzer, Marder 38T, Marder I-II, Tiger I-II, Leopard I, 2A5, Sherman M4A1, Sherman M3, Jagdpanzer, Jagdpanther, Stuig, Stug I-III, Maus, Leo, Pbv 302, Strv 72, 103, Strv m/43, IKV 72, 103, Abrams M1, KV-9, T-34, Panther, Sturmtiger, Grille, Wespe, CV-90, Archer
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:11 PM
Wespe my beloved
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IKV 72 was a blast
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:12 PM
Man, massive caliber rounds really get me going. Mk19 goes so hard too
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Ronin Toriyama
Ahh, mandalore. I'll give it a glance sometime
Yeah it's a pretty good game, esp if you are looking to be able to actually do a playthrough in a shorter amount of time. Games range from 4 to 12 hours of playtime depending on size.
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:12 PM
Autocannons fucking rock
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Man, massive caliber rounds really get me going. Mk19 goes so hard too
Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:12 PM
It can kill over 200 zombies
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PlebiasFate 6/28/2024 6:12 PM
Anyone here playing drg as well?
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Ronin Toriyama
Man, massive caliber rounds really get me going. Mk19 goes so hard too
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:13 PM
I love 40mm and 57mm Auto cannons. Like I he Sergeant York 40mm and the BleigitPanzer 57mm Auto cannon
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Yeah it's a pretty good game, esp if you are looking to be able to actually do a playthrough in a shorter amount of time. Games range from 4 to 12 hours of playtime depending on size.
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:13 PM
Oh that's pretty rad. I can finally finish a game unlike with stellaris lol
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I love 40mm and 57mm Auto cannons. Like I he Sergeant York 40mm and the BleigitPanzer 57mm Auto cannon
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:13 PM
Something about a high rate of fire with big ol' meaty fuck you rounds is just. MMM
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I've had a fondness for the Bradley too, it's a really interesting vehicle
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Ronin Toriyama
Something about a high rate of fire with big ol' meaty fuck you rounds is just. MMM
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:13 PM
Hell Yeah
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Oh that's pretty rad. I can finally finish a game unlike with stellaris lol
Yeah my biggest nit picks with Stellaris and Distant Worlds is it just takes so much time to do a playthrough properly.
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They are brilliant games but it's a 30h minimum time sink per playthrough
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Yeah my biggest nit picks with Stellaris and Distant Worlds is it just takes so much time to do a playthrough properly.
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can i get img perms?
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Something about a high rate of fire with big ol' meaty fuck you rounds is just. MMM
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:14 PM
But the Italians are built diff. They literally made a 76mm autocannon and put it onto a tank turret
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Yeah my biggest nit picks with Stellaris and Distant Worlds is it just takes so much time to do a playthrough properly.
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:14 PM
Yeh, I struggle with it like in total war games too. Grand scale campaign stuff are hard to fully complete at times
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can i get img perms?
Not in this channel.
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But the Italians are built diff. They literally made a 76mm autocannon and put it onto a tank turret
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:14 PM
That's pretty dope. I'm not quite tank knowledgeable, but what is it?
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Shadaurix2005 6/28/2024 6:15 PM
My favorite game in this general vein is probably Civ V It’s simple enough but has decent depth, plus mods
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Ronin Toriyama
That's pretty dope. I'm not quite tank knowledgeable, but what is it?
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:16 PM
It's called the OTOMATIC. Search it up
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It's called the OTOMATIC. Search it up
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:16 PM
Rog
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My favorite game in this general vein is probably Civ V It’s simple enough but has decent depth, plus mods
Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 6:16 PM
I do love researching tec trees.
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I do love researching tec trees.
Shadaurix2005 6/28/2024 6:16 PM
Yeah Enlightenment era mod and future worlds both add a lot to this
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It's called the OTOMATIC. Search it up
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:17 PM
Bro, it's just an Italian ZU SPAA but with a naval cannon, wtf lol
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I could never get into the civ games. The history nut in me always revolted at the idea of the U.S.A beginning in the stone age. Among other things. (edited)
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Crystal | SES Dungeons&Democracy 6/28/2024 6:17 PM
especially in a way that allows me to get guns before everyone else
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Democratic Sapper Techno 6/28/2024 6:17 PM
gead dame
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:17 PM
Gead
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Bro, it's just an Italian ZU SPAA but with a naval cannon, wtf lol
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:17 PM
Told you. And it's Automatic as well. It's shoots fast and guess what. It can shoot 76mm APFSDS Rounds
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MARSOC_Rmc
Told you. And it's Automatic as well. It's shoots fast and guess what. It can shoot 76mm APFSDS Rounds
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:18 PM
Pretty wild honestly. Getting pelted by something like that with a rapid high fire rate is insane
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Idk what would have to be my fav tank outside the Bradley tbh
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Niroc
I could never get into the civ games. The history nut in me always revolted at the idea of the U.S.A beginning in the stone age. Among other things. (edited)
Shadaurix2005 6/28/2024 6:18 PM
There is a mod that gives each civilization their own starting date based off of history I’ve never tried it but maybe it could fix some of the weirdness around that
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Niroc
Not in this channel.
Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:19 PM
oKE
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Shadaurix2005
There is a mod that gives each civilization their own starting date based off of history I’ve never tried it but maybe it could fix some of the weirdness around that
Probably. I have Civ 5 sitting in my library but i've never given it a proper go.
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:21 PM
Never could play those games either tbh. They're eh
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Total war, stellaris, endless space tho? Factorio, dwarf fortress, rimworld? Hell yeah, give me all of the autism baby lol
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Ronin Toriyama
Pretty wild honestly. Getting pelted by something like that with a rapid high fire rate is insane
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:21 PM
To get a hint of the irl fire rate search up on YouTube Oto Melara 76mm autocannon firing. That's basically the gun the OTOMATIC uses
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It's insane
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To get a hint of the irl fire rate search up on YouTube Oto Melara 76mm autocannon firing. That's basically the gun the OTOMATIC uses
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:23 PM
Having 76 hurl your way to suppress yourself and tanks is a pretty scary thing to see. And the fact that it's water cooled with the naval version is wilder lol. That's pretty damn cool tbh
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Ronin Toriyama
Having 76 hurl your way to suppress yourself and tanks is a pretty scary thing to see. And the fact that it's water cooled with the naval version is wilder lol. That's pretty damn cool tbh
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:24 PM
You saw the vid
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:24 PM
I guess speaking on the topic of autocannon sort of design, I've always liked the German ostwind too
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MARSOC_Rmc
You saw the vid
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:24 PM
Yeah I did, it was like every other second and super consistent
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Ronin Toriyama
Yeah I did, it was like every other second and super consistent
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:24 PM
Imagine being in the receiving end of a 76mm
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:25 PM
Lol, no thanks. I'm fine with small arms, but fucking bursts of 76?
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I assume the otomatic has an auto loader too (edited)
6:26 PM
Which to even mention with something of that caliber is definitely fear inducing. Lol
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Ronin Toriyama
I assume the otomatic has an auto loader too (edited)
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:27 PM
Yes it does have an auto loader. It used to be able to shoot faster too. But they slowed it down a little bit to make sure the barrel wouldn't wear out quickly
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HellComm. Not an Illuminate Spy 6/28/2024 6:27 PM
@Ronin Toriyama sir are you aware that you are cheese
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HellComm. Not an Illuminate Spy
@Ronin Toriyama sir are you aware that you are cheese
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:27 PM
Ah shit, am I?
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MARSOC_Rmc
Yes it does have an auto loader. It used to be able to shoot faster too. But they slowed it down a little bit to make sure the barrel wouldn't wear out quickly
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:27 PM
Makes sense, especially on land. I like the idea of it too. As it can be dual purpose between air and also anti tank
6:28 PM
Surely one of the apfsds gets them lol
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Ronin Toriyama
Ah shit, am I?
HellComm. Not an Illuminate Spy 6/28/2024 6:28 PM
Is that not a sergal in your pfp?
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:28 PM
Guys dont search "chicken wing maccaronie"
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HellComm. Not an Illuminate Spy
Is that not a sergal in your pfp?
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:28 PM
Yes, it is haha
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HellComm. Not an Illuminate Spy 6/28/2024 6:28 PM
then you are 🧀
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HellComm. Not an Illuminate Spy
then you are 🧀
Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:28 PM
silly
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:28 PM
Sticker
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Ronin Toriyama
Makes sense, especially on land. I like the idea of it too. As it can be dual purpose between air and also anti tank
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:29 PM
It is getting replaced by the DRACO. which is the same thing as the OTOMATIC but shoots faster, has more ammo, faster speed and carries smoke
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:30 PM
Geeeez, technology improvements is a crazy thing
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Ronin Toriyama
Geeeez, technology improvements is a crazy thing
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:31 PM
And the DRACO is on wheels too
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:33 PM
Even better mobility. Though, idk too much about tanks, sounds like wheels are a more field improved way to maneuver on the field. Just wonder how it works in the long run, wheels on tanks idk much about xd
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Ronin Toriyama
Even better mobility. Though, idk too much about tanks, sounds like wheels are a more field improved way to maneuver on the field. Just wonder how it works in the long run, wheels on tanks idk much about xd
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:34 PM
But yeah the Italians have some weird SPAAG
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:36 PM
Italians got super good stuff outta nowhere, it's weird
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Ronin Toriyama
Italians got super good stuff outta nowhere, it's weird
MARSOC_Rmc 6/28/2024 6:38 PM
I wish the U.S had better SPAAG
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:42 PM
Yeee anti air hasn't really been that much of a concern for the US as a lot of the airforce is more than capable to neutralize and dominate airspace rapidly
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spector7650 6/28/2024 6:42 PM
Holy shit, tf2 is going hard on offense against the tf2 automatons!
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:42 PM
Oh? Well that's good too, love tf2
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:42 PM
tf2 sucks bro
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Ronin Toriyama
Oh? Well that's good too, love tf2
spector7650 6/28/2024 6:43 PM
They just started downright deleting steam accounts of bot hosters and ip banning them
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:43 PM
Fucking finally
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:43 PM
tf2 sucks BRO!
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:44 PM
Fuck omegatronic
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Ronin Toriyama
Fucking finally
spector7650 6/28/2024 6:44 PM
Even when they tried making new bots in e.u. valve sniped them out with the anti-bot guns
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:46 PM
Again. About fucking time, it's been a long time coming, they've been plaguing the game for far too long. Really sucks too, as I love tf2 a lot. Grew up with it
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One of few games that has survived as long as it has, where most games today flop in a year's time
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spector7650 6/28/2024 6:47 PM
Mhm, and soon i may get my pc parts bought, shipped and built so ill be back in the tf2 bloodline and also be a brand, spankin' new diver
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:50 PM
Nice, I'm happy for ya'z!
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I grew up with tf2 and hold it fondly and close to me. Everything about it and especially it's funny art style and characters, the world, everything about it is just amazing
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tf2 sucks BRO!
You said that twice
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LeGerbs
You said that twice
Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:52 PM
AND?
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Ronin Toriyama
I grew up with tf2 and hold it fondly and close to me. Everything about it and especially it's funny art style and characters, the world, everything about it is just amazing
Tf2 is one of the greatest games of all time and even inspired a ton of games today
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:53 PM
Easily. Between that, gmod, and half life, it makes me so happy to see them as prevalent as they are in pop culture and animation now
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Niroc
Probably. I have Civ 5 sitting in my library but i've never given it a proper go.
Shadaurix2005 6/28/2024 6:55 PM
I’d recommend it tbh
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:55 PM
Poggers?!
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civ 5 has a few good mods. it can be pretty fun
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Civ 6 is actually pretty good idk why people hate it so much (edited)
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It was bad at launch but it's good now
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Ronin Toriyama
I grew up with tf2 and hold it fondly and close to me. Everything about it and especially it's funny art style and characters, the world, everything about it is just amazing
spector7650 6/28/2024 6:57 PM
Yeah i first played back in 2021 and had to stop playing back in 2023 cause my laptop died but in those span of 2 years if playing the game i put in 2k hours and played some rgl tf2 comp at age 15 (ofc i got my ass kicked lol) and i had swipez and koyotemoone teach me a lot on how to be a really good spy main, especially koyotemoone, she's a REALLY good pyro main
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Yeah i first played back in 2021 and had to stop playing back in 2023 cause my laptop died but in those span of 2 years if playing the game i put in 2k hours and played some rgl tf2 comp at age 15 (ofc i got my ass kicked lol) and i had swipez and koyotemoone teach me a lot on how to be a really good spy main, especially koyotemoone, she's a REALLY good pyro main
I'm a heavy main 👍
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 6:58 PM
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:58 PM
Heavy and medic main..
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 6:58 PM
used to be an engie main
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Yeah i first played back in 2021 and had to stop playing back in 2023 cause my laptop died but in those span of 2 years if playing the game i put in 2k hours and played some rgl tf2 comp at age 15 (ofc i got my ass kicked lol) and i had swipez and koyotemoone teach me a lot on how to be a really good spy main, especially koyotemoone, she's a REALLY good pyro main
Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 6:58 PM
Gawh damn, that's a lot lol
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Never went to the comp scene. I easily could if I wanted, but I just never bothered
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
used to be an engie main
That's my second let's goooo
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LeGerbs
Civ 6 is actually pretty good idk why people hate it so much (edited)
Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:59 PM
and?
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 6:59 PM
you said it 2 times in a ROW!
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:00 PM
?
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Ronin Toriyama
Never went to the comp scene. I easily could if I wanted, but I just never bothered
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:00 PM
Yeah i had a amazing team, tho probably wasnt best putting a 15 yr old rookie like me in amateur due to some of our teammates we had instead of starting in newcomers
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So i got the boot given to me
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But oh well, learn from the losses lol
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you said it 2 times in a ROW!
This guy's like 14
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LeGerbs
This guy's like 14
Deleted User 6/28/2024 7:02 PM
ok ur wrong tho (edited)
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:02 PM
I know our team coach he showed me how underrated the enforcer revolver was and tbh i loved using that thing
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Grand Lord of Beans NateGoregasm 6/28/2024 7:03 PM
Oh come you know that's wholesome
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spector7650
I know our team coach he showed me how underrated the enforcer revolver was and tbh i loved using that thing
I can't stand the enforcer personally. Stock is usually my main if I do play spy. Spy mains running the ambassador are 90% terrible and 10% amazing
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Grand Lord of Beans NateGoregasm
Oh come you know that's wholesome
Isn't it from a horror game?
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Niroc
Isn't it from a horror game?
Grand Lord of Beans NateGoregasm 6/28/2024 7:04 PM
Yeah the one we were talking about before Poppy's Playtime
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LeGerbs
I can't stand the enforcer personally. Stock is usually my main if I do play spy. Spy mains running the ambassador are 90% terrible and 10% amazing
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:04 PM
Yeah he pointed out how if im disguised and land my first shot, it does a bonus 20% increase and the slower fire rate makes the revolver have a reduced bullet spread
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It basically makes 2 shotting medics easier
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 7:05 PM
4robo_ohno
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Yeah he pointed out how if im disguised and land my first shot, it does a bonus 20% increase and the slower fire rate makes the revolver have a reduced bullet spread
Yeah I feel it's too niche of a gun for me to want to use. If you miss that first shot it just cripples you in the long run
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But I'm also a heavy main. Tomislav Sandvich and GRU
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:06 PM
Noice
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I know i used mostly cloak and dag, stock or enforce, and my knife was either stock or it was the speed boost buuutt if i wanted to play a little saucy, kunai
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Ima be real spy and pyro are my least played classes. I mostly play Heavy, Engi, and Scout
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:08 PM
Hm, intresting
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I have Soldier in my back pocket but it's not my goto
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Deleted User 6/28/2024 7:09 PM
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LeGerbs
I have Soldier in my back pocket but it's not my goto
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:09 PM
Noice, i think my secondary was either sniper or it was demoknight
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Or it was the Double DONK main
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spector7650
Noice, i think my secondary was either sniper or it was demoknight
Demo knight is so damn fun. Trimping around Upward
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:10 PM
Loose Cannon jumping fucking rocks
0_hellnod_yes 1
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 7:10 PM
its ok i guess
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LeGerbs
Demo knight is so damn fun. Trimping around Upward
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:10 PM
FR and lets not forget the glorious... DA-DONK!! DA-DONK!!
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FR and lets not forget the glorious... DA-DONK!! DA-DONK!!
The most fun you can have crapping on tryhard sniper mains
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I hate snipers because they counter Heavy so bad 😂
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:13 PM
True
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LeGerbs
The most fun you can have crapping on tryhard sniper mains
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:13 PM
The most satisfying thing: having three snipers together and a pocket med and you rando crit with loose cannon and you heard a double donk and see you killed all 4 with it
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HellComm. Not an Illuminate Spy 6/28/2024 7:13 PM
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The most satisfying thing: having three snipers together and a pocket med and you rando crit with loose cannon and you heard a double donk and see you killed all 4 with it
I love playing flank heavy so it's satisfying running full speed at a sniper and punching them out of the galaxy with the Gru
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:16 PM
Lmao nice
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The russian spy
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I have like 3k hours in heavy so my friend and I will run the kritzkrieg and stomp casual games
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Grand Lord of Beans NateGoregasm 6/28/2024 7:17 PM
『ARMORED CORE™ VI FIRES OF RUBICON™』より「IB-C03: HAL 826 / Handler Walter」がROBOT魂に登場!
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:19 PM
its crazy how i have 1.7k hours in tf2 and thats practically rookie numbers.
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity
its crazy how i have 1.7k hours in tf2 and thats practically rookie numbers.
I'm at 5k and it's still rookie compared to so many people
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LeGerbs
I have like 3k hours in heavy so my friend and I will run the kritzkrieg and stomp casual games
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:21 PM
Oh nice! Usually if i want to pub stomp i use diamondback, kunai and deadringer, but i stay in harvest only so i dont make others suffer 🙂
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Oh nice! Usually if i want to pub stomp i use diamondback, kunai and deadringer, but i stay in harvest only so i dont make others suffer 🙂
Diamondback is the most broken spy revolver idc what anyone says
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:22 PM
frontier justice but on a class that can exploit the free crits way harder
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity
frontier justice but on a class that can exploit the free crits way harder
Absolutely especially paired with the gunslinger for a battle engi loadout
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LeGerbs
Diamondback is the most broken spy revolver idc what anyone says
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:27 PM
Oh yeah, i still find it funny how the ambu was nerfed but not the diamondback like... ok lmao
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:27 PM
the ambassador nerf, while necessary, was too heavyhanded
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i love seeing crits do only 50 damage when the target was like 10m away
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Oh yeah, i still find it funny how the ambu was nerfed but not the diamondback like... ok lmao
Ambi was always trash imo. But being able to headshot back to back to back was a little busted in the right hands
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Ambi was always trash imo. But being able to headshot back to back to back was a little busted in the right hands
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:28 PM
Yeah. Swipez was a menace back in those days using it
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Worst classes rn are spy and Heavy if I'm being honest both of them need some love
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Heavy is easy to pick up hard to master
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:28 PM
Mhm
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Spy is hard to pick up and challenging to master
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:29 PM
new spy players need to learn they don't only have a knife lmao
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity
new spy players need to learn they don't only have a knife lmao
Most spy players need to learn that 😂 keep trying your matador on me bud
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:30 PM
i love spy but i cant trickstab for my life, i'm the patient cloak&dagger kind of spy that will absolutely whip out a revolver if needed
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LeGerbs
Most spy players need to learn that 😂 keep trying your matador on me bud
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:30 PM
Oh yeah, i have a clip of matadoring a heavy on the cart and not even 10 seconds he said, "horseshit" lol
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Oh yeah, i have a clip of matadoring a heavy on the cart and not even 10 seconds he said, "horseshit" lol
Lmaooo bad heavies tend to cry about it. Spies tend to mess with their interp settings so I adjust mine the same and if you have good tracking they aren't gonna matador you
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:32 PM
i hate that stuff. feel like if you need to fuck with how the game works to be "good" then you need to change up how you play
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Lmaooo bad heavies tend to cry about it. Spies tend to mess with their interp settings so I adjust mine the same and if you have good tracking they aren't gonna matador you
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:32 PM
Mhm. I do the legit way, so i just practiced a lot. I know before my laptop died i got my very first surf stab and... omg it was so fucking good to land it
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity
i hate that stuff. feel like if you need to fuck with how the game works to be "good" then you need to change up how you play
Well to be fair valve server latency sucks in tf2
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:33 PM
Yeah, fair.
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Melee hit reg is so bad
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity
i hate that stuff. feel like if you need to fuck with how the game works to be "good" then you need to change up how you play
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:33 PM
I know Swipez, what he did it was, not interp but more lerp and what he do is put in command lerp 0 which it didnt work like cl_interp 5 does and just makes it so the failstabs from hitboxes are like near impossible to happen than before
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My biggest counters are good snipers and good demo mains. Spy mains can get me sometimes if they're playing the cloak and dagger style but if it's a dead ringer spy I'm gonna know
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:34 PM
Diamondback is gay and I miss old ambassador
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My biggest counters are good snipers and good demo mains. Spy mains can get me sometimes if they're playing the cloak and dagger style but if it's a dead ringer spy I'm gonna know
spector7650 6/28/2024 7:35 PM
Oh yeah most of the heavies i trickstabbed, after the 2nd time it happens they equip the natascha for some reason
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:35 PM
im a stock knife and ambassador enjoyer, i miss the old amby but it definitely needed falloff back then. just not as bad falloff as it has now 2diverCry
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:35 PM
It's pretty horrendous now, sadly
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Oh yeah most of the heavies i trickstabbed, after the 2nd time it happens they equip the natascha for some reason
Bad heavies usually. Natascha is okay. But Tomislav and Stock are in reality the only effective miniguns
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I like stock in close quarter maps but other than that I'm running tomi
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:36 PM
Yeah i think they used it to try to slow my movement so i couldnt matador them as well, before they found out shortly i can just leap off a roof and assassin creed them
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:36 PM
Brass beast is fun af if you learn how to properly use it from time to time haha
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 7:36 PM
I’m trolling a scammer Muhammad won’t know what hit ‘em (edited)
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:36 PM
before i stopped playing i was mostly using either trolldier or loose cannon demo, just liked being extremely fast
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:36 PM
The amount of damage it does additionally is great, on top of having chocolate ups the threshold for damage resistance
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Ronin Toriyama
Brass beast is fun af if you learn how to properly use it from time to time haha
That spin up time is too much for me. By the time he revs he's already dead from a demo or especially another heavy
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:37 PM
If you flank as heavy with brass, it's almost game over for the enemy team
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Frontline wise, it's good to soak damage and be the target for everyone, but the movement and spin up is indeed the biggest falloff
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Ronin Toriyama
If you flank as heavy with brass, it's almost game over for the enemy team
Nah a good scout is gonna abuse the shit outta you on flanks
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:38 PM
Yeh in comp situations, brass isn't gonna fair well at all that much. You'd have to stick with the team if you have brass in that case
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I've done some sneaks with the brass and it's pretty devastating when you catch the enemy unaware
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DigitalSnow|SES Eye of Eternity 6/28/2024 7:38 PM
shame the brass beast is not only super loud but distinct too
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Ronin Toriyama
I've done some sneaks with the brass and it's pretty devastating when you catch the enemy unaware
Heavy in general if he gets a good flank is gonna decimate an unaware team
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spector7650 6/28/2024 7:39 PM
Yeah ill def need koyotemoone's help on shaking off all the rust as a spy main
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:39 PM
True, but the main bonus is the additional damage. Even per tick from long range does a lot to harass people from afar, and it builds up quick
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 7:39 PM
Bro I tell this scammer I’m boutta kms to troll em and says “yeah yeah I get it”
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:39 PM
It's that the brass beast is simply very unwieldy and goes against the few major weaknesses heavy already has
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True, but the main bonus is the additional damage. Even per tick from long range does a lot to harass people from afar, and it builds up quick
Tomis better accuracy does the same thing but you have the advantage of more mobility and faster spin up
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Oh and no sound which is huge in a lot of situatiobs
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:40 PM
Ye but it kinda gets tiring with tomi and reg from time to time. More of that upfront damage is nice
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I get it as a heavy too, but after using brass beast a decent bit, I've gotten a bit of a liking to it
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DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:41 PM
Imagine if helldivers was on VR
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If you're playing casual with a bunch of bad players brass beast can put in work but overall it's a handicap to an already handicapped class
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DarkenLainers, Young diver
Imagine if helldivers was on VR
As long as it has some kind of measure to keep ragdolling from being a motion sickness mess lmaooo On topic: Try out the DRG VR mod if you haven't, it's brilliant
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Where my stock shotgun pyros at
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esm | SES Father of Democracy 6/28/2024 7:42 PM
@𝕸𝖔𝖓𝖐𝖎𝖊𝖉𝖔
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DarkenLainers, Young diver
Imagine if helldivers was on VR
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 7:42 PM
Then helldivers vr sex would probably become a thing
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As long as it has some kind of measure to keep ragdolling from being a motion sickness mess lmaooo On topic: Try out the DRG VR mod if you haven't, it's brilliant
DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:42 PM
Huh okay then
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Echo_ | SES Knight of justice
Then helldivers vr sex would probably become a thing
DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:43 PM
Lol imagine, but I guess there would be something to get a CO-1 Permit
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:43 PM
Don't mess around with the stock shotgun, that thing goes wild
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I might get shot for this but the backup plan was better when it had 0 shells in it by default
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Ronin Toriyama
Don't mess around with the stock shotgun, that thing goes wild
I love it so much, first killstreak I ever got
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DarkenLainers, Young diver
Lol imagine, but I guess there would be something to get a CO-1 Permit
Echo_ | SES Knight of justice 6/28/2024 7:43 PM
Women rarely play helldivers so it’s not like there’s gonna be anyone to have co1 with (edited)
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DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:43 PM
I don't trust shotgun users in general
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:43 PM
Why tho
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That's a healthy assessment tbf
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Buckshot doesn't do wonders for your health, especially if you're also on fire
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Shotgun is amazing I mean it's a freaking shotgun it go pew pew and do massive damage
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Ronin Toriyama 6/28/2024 7:44 PM
It's pretty damn reliable
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It is my favorite weapon in the entire game, only took me 700 hours to realize that lol
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+ it helps pyros pick off weakened classes at a distance
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LeGerbs
Shotgun is amazing I mean it's a freaking shotgun it go pew pew and do massive damage
DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:45 PM
It is great until you get in the crossfire of someone using one, reliable and good don't get me wrong, but it can be a team killer if your not careful
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Exactly, and since I run Homewrecker a lot I gotta defend engy nests
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DarkenLainers, Young diver
It is great until you get in the crossfire of someone using one, reliable and good don't get me wrong, but it can be a team killer if your not careful
Uh are we talking about the same game?
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DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:45 PM
Good question
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I think some comp modes have FF
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I'm talking about tf2
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I personally remember playing a Highlander game with it on
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LeGerbs
I'm talking about tf2
DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:46 PM
Ah lol
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Friendly fire would literally destroy one of Pyro's biggest ups as a character
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DarkenLainers, Young diver
Ah lol
All good lmao if you're talking about helldivers yeah it can definitely wipe out teammates quick
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DarkenLainers, Young diver 6/28/2024 7:47 PM
Yea, I started to feel stupid for a sec