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Deleted User 2/3/2024 10:53 PM
I didn’t see it
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Is it on YouTube ?
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Baskinator 2/3/2024 10:56 PM
This is the off-topic channel. For HD2 talk, try #hd2-general-chat-1
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AetherDawned 2/3/2024 11:50 PM
hello im new
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hello
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Hola
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╲⎝⧹ zǝɹo ⧸⎠╱ 2/4/2024 5:16 AM
sup sup
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hello
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SovietMarmalade 2/4/2024 7:23 AM
I await the lasagna pics
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I too await the lasagne pics
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SovietMarmalade
I await the lasagna pics
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 7:36 AM
Replying to this message: https://discord.com/channels/1102970375731691612/1102973812179488798/1203603965086793818 We're discussing the number, but we're looking for people who can cover NA timezones especially. I am terminally online, but I've been losing a bit too much sleep over this. 😄
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Baskinator
Replying to this message: https://discord.com/channels/1102970375731691612/1102973812179488798/1203603965086793818 We're discussing the number, but we're looking for people who can cover NA timezones especially. I am terminally online, but I've been losing a bit too much sleep over this. 😄
Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence 2/4/2024 7:37 AM
Oh man, and I was already encouraged to look into this by family, lol. I'm just worried I won't remember to be around enough.
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Baskinator
Replying to this message: https://discord.com/channels/1102970375731691612/1102973812179488798/1203603965086793818 We're discussing the number, but we're looking for people who can cover NA timezones especially. I am terminally online, but I've been losing a bit too much sleep over this. 😄
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 7:38 AM
Does it have to do with a large amount of your players being American ?
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence 2/4/2024 7:38 AM
My goal with my education was to eventually become a community manager on some game, so my brother was telling me I should try to get some experience like this.
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Does it have to do with a large amount of your players being American ?
Baskinator 2/4/2024 7:38 AM
It's more that we have to get some rest and we're in the CET timezone.
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Which is just about opposite to NA waking/online hours.
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 7:39 AM
That’s true
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I’m living in the future ahead of you all
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence
My goal with my education was to eventually become a community manager on some game, so my brother was telling me I should try to get some experience like this.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 7:39 AM
Come on bro aim higher don’t underestimate yourself
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence 2/4/2024 7:40 AM
I just don't want to disappoint people is all.
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Vizinho | SES Star of the Stars 2/4/2024 7:41 AM
Not sure how y'all do it. I get frustrated just by seeing the same freaking questions asked over and over lol Specially when it's in FAQ 😭
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence
My goal with my education was to eventually become a community manager on some game, so my brother was telling me I should try to get some experience like this.
Baskinator 2/4/2024 7:41 AM
It's true that's a good way to get experience.
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im trying to figure out if i should apply. i just got here but like... i genuinely enjoy moderating and helping people
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Vizinho | SES Star of the Stars
Not sure how y'all do it. I get frustrated just by seeing the same freaking questions asked over and over lol Specially when it's in FAQ 😭
Baskinator 2/4/2024 7:42 AM
Well, a mod doesn't have quite the same expectation that we do with answering questions. HD2 is our job. But when things are moving fast, I usually keep a text doc open with auto responses to copypaste into the chat, like "read the FAQ here" or some such.
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence
I just don't want to disappoint people is all.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 7:42 AM
Pragmatism Is the key trait
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Vizinho | SES Star of the Stars 2/4/2024 7:45 AM
Oh, for sure. I meant more regarding CMs. I can see the doc helping a lot xD. I would consider applying for mod but I'm not gonna be nearly as active once the game launches 😅 .
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 7:45 AM
That is the trade off
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Pragmatism Is the key trait
REC-6 Demolisher #1 Fan 2/4/2024 7:46 AM
how am I so drowsy I read this as plagiarism
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 7:46 AM
Paddington plug time go watch Paddington it will make you a better human
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Come on bro aim higher don’t underestimate yourself
Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence 2/4/2024 7:53 AM
Threw in an application. Maybe it'll go somewhere. The form had a lot of room for explanations of myself at least.
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence
Threw in an application. Maybe it'll go somewhere. The form had a lot of room for explanations of myself at least.
for preferred name, do you like. put your real name or just what you prefer to go by on discord? im tired. maybe i shouldn't be looking at this when im so tired
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for preferred name, do you like. put your real name or just what you prefer to go by on discord? im tired. maybe i shouldn't be looking at this when im so tired
Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence 2/4/2024 7:54 AM
This one also gave me pause. I put my real-life first name, since discord username is another question anyways.
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It's weird to me though since the majority of people I know call me Grub. Even my brother does half the time, lol.
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence
Threw in an application. Maybe it'll go somewhere. The form had a lot of room for explanations of myself at least.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 7:55 AM
May you be chosen
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 8:01 AM
@fly go to sleep and write the application tmr when you’re fresh
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Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence
This one also gave me pause. I put my real-life first name, since discord username is another question anyways.
Baskinator 2/4/2024 8:02 AM
Some people have nicknames that don't always match their Discord names.
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Or you can give us your first name.
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Baskinator
Some people have nicknames that don't always match their Discord names.
Grubfist, Fist of Benevolence 2/4/2024 8:02 AM
I just didn't know how formal I needed to be, honestly.
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Nate Mc Bow 2/4/2024 8:30 AM
I chose to simply stick to my username in all purposes, try to avoid using my real name online.
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Nate Mc Bow
I chose to simply stick to my username in all purposes, try to avoid using my real name online.
me too, generally, but the rest of the mod team seems pretty transparent so i can understand why transparency is important for the rest of the applicants to some degree
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Nate Mc Bow 2/4/2024 8:32 AM
I am hoping that does not invalidate my form. I mean if i recall it right, it said "preferred name" or somesuch.
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 8:32 AM
Yes, preferred name.
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As in how you'd like us to address you personally. I also add birthdays to my Google calendar for people I work with because I'm That Lady™
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Nate Mc Bow 2/4/2024 8:34 AM
@BaskinatorAlright, thanks. Then I know that all the details I put in were up to spec.
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 1:08 PM
Some of the cheese was over exposed at that edge there... But overall a decent go at lasagna
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Chris Fifty-Two 2/4/2024 1:24 PM
Looks great!
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 1:26 PM
Thanks!
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 1:33 PM
It's not easy to make it look appetizing. I'd wager my baked goods photos are better at that 😅
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 1:50 PM
Yummers
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Food pictures are..... difficult. Looks good though!
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Baskinator
Some of the cheese was over exposed at that edge there... But overall a decent go at lasagna
so thats what a legitimate lasagna looks like
2:34 PM
(and my finger's muscle memory made me type lasgun instead of lasagna for like 3 times in a row just now)
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Ironside
Food pictures are..... difficult. Looks good though!
Baskinator 2/4/2024 2:46 PM
Yeah, with a lot of Italian dishes, no matter what you do they kind of look like a mess? But a delicious mess.
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Sunspear
(and my finger's muscle memory made me type lasgun instead of lasagna for like 3 times in a row just now)
Standard issue Lasgun's a good weapon!
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Baskinator
Yeah, with a lot of Italian dishes, no matter what you do they kind of look like a mess? But a delicious mess.
Most of my dishes look off regardless of style but damn if they ain't tasty hahahah
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Ironside
Standard issue Lasgun's a good weapon!
meanwhile, desktop
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 2:49 PM
I believe pies, cakes, and tarts are where my skills shine. 👩🍳
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I had a little 1k point match via google slides(the last resort when you don't have money) and 6 out of 88 shots landed
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Baskinator
I believe pies, cakes, and tarts are where my skills shine. 👩🍳
wuh these look real good
2:50 PM
I'm not a desert enjoyer but I'd gladly take a slice on these
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Is that cheesecake I spy
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Sunspear
I had a little 1k point match via google slides(the last resort when you don't have money) and 6 out of 88 shots landed
That's ouchie, I haven't played TT since 5th. I just collect the models these days.
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 2:52 PM
Thanks! I don't like eating them as much as I like making them. It's rewarding.
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Ironside
Is that cheesecake I spy
Baskinator 2/4/2024 2:52 PM
Indeed. I'm working on perfecting my cheesecake still, but that was my best one so far.
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Nice nice, I haven't made a proper cheesecake in over a year now. Well overdue heh
2:57 PM
Thought I had a picture of my last one, can't find it
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Baskinator
I believe pies, cakes, and tarts are where my skills shine. 👩🍳
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 3:01 PM
If you can find time try making a caramel slice
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Best Aussie pastry/baked item
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Vanilla slice too
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talking about pies
3:02 PM
I don't find the appealing of the meat pie (edited)
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London Fog Cake my beloved
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:08 PM
hell yeah are we foodposting bros
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Sunspear
I don't find the appealing of the meat pie (edited)
Meat pies are nice for just having a one stop shop for all your nutrition for the day :p
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Baskinator
I believe pies, cakes, and tarts are where my skills shine. 👩🍳
WHAT WHAT WHAT... that looks so good
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Baskinator 2/4/2024 3:09 PM
Thank you!
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Ironside
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That looks really good
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:10 PM
gundam’s gotta eat
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Ironside
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Baskinator 2/4/2024 3:11 PM
the gundam in the background 😂
3:11 PM
Looks tasty though
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That was my birthday present and dinner for myself :p
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Omg nice! Belated happy birthday :D
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This was monthsssssssss ago just my most recent food picture, but thank you
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Thats not a gundam its a zaku 💀
3:13 PM
but the food looks so good
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especially in nights like these
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:13 PM
sameee thing, just big robots
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Aye it's a mobile suit, not a Gundam, but I try not to nerd out on the non initiated
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heh, I'm not intending to nerd out I'm just fooling around
3:14 PM
like 90% of the time I'm not serious
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:14 PM
I just see a mech that isn’t from battletech and just assume it’s gundam 😭
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Hah
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I once called Gouf? What was his name?
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yeah I called him zaku and some of my friends who were into gundam just bet me into a pulp
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I'm also a Battletech goblin don't worry :p
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oh its a paradox interactive game
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Sunspear
I once called Gouf? What was his name?
Gouf is the blue one with the whip, definitely no Zaku
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I never heard of it but paradox makes good games
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Sunspear
oh its a paradox interactive game
There is one that was published by Paradox but it's originally a tabletop wargame
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:16 PM
I gotta get to painting my battletech minis but then I’ll also have to paint my warhammer minis 🥲
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Ironside
There is one that was published by Paradox but it's originally a tabletop wargame
yeah I just saw them on google
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Hyenamancer
I gotta get to painting my battletech minis but then I’ll also have to paint my warhammer minis 🥲
Painting? People do that and don't just get hundreds of minis? :p
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:17 PM
sometimes….
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Heh
3:17 PM
I uh
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:17 PM
i got like 76 warhammer dudes that need painting atm 😩😩😩😩
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Bought everything from the latest CGL Kickstarter
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:17 PM
based….
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I missed out on the first one
3:18 PM
So I saved up specifically to get everything I could from the Mercs one
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:19 PM
I gotta get in on the next one
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I wonder if the next one will be ASFs or even Fleet combat stuff
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If it's Jihad I'm skipping. I hate Wobbie designs
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:22 PM
Idunno I think they’re alright
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They're way too edgy. Much like most of the Jihad lore itself lol
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:23 PM
Faaair
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Plus kinda BS having a PPC in the head slot on every mech
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Misty
Omg nice! Belated happy birthday :D
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/4/2024 3:24 PM
Why is your pfp sometimes a cat and sometimes a human
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Why is your pfp sometimes a cat and sometimes a human
Server Profiles
3:24 PM
My default pfp is a cat, but i have me as my pfp in this server :D
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SOrry, i am not a shapeshifter
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Sounds like something a skinwalker would say :p
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Ironside
Plus kinda BS having a PPC in the head slot on every mech
Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:26 PM
not me putting PPCs on all my mechs
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I mean I usually do too if it's already an energy boat
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:26 PM
Honestly so excited for that new mechwarrior thingy
3:27 PM
clanners,,,,
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My personal ride is a custom Crusader though
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Traded out one arm's weapons for an LBX-10
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:27 PM
I’ve always been a crab guy tbh
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Hyenamancer
clanners,,,,
I'm not a fan of Clans and I'm doubly not a fan of Smoke Jags.
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Hyenamancer
I’ve always been a crab guy tbh
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But it is the first game in a while where we get to play as Clanners and I'm interested to see how they do the story
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:28 PM
Yee same
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I really liked a couple of their story DLCs for 5
3:29 PM
Absolutely hated Dragon's Gambit though
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:31 PM
Still haven’t played dragons gambit actually
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but my friend said it wasn’t very good
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Idunno I prefer HBS Battletech over mechwarrior when it comes to the video games i think
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I prefer real time because I grew up with MW 2/3/4
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I didn't get into tabletop/turn based until I was indoctrinated into DnD/Warhammer by my friends.
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But yeah Dragon's Gambit is set after the Death to Mercenaries act and uh
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You're a Mercenary
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It stretches the excuse as to why you're exempt from it pretty heavily
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:40 PM
huuh
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Yeah
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 3:46 PM
Kinda silly
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They could've picked a bunch of other Combine wars to have you play with but they picked the one where they backstabbed mercenaries. In a game about being a Mercenary
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Ironside
It stretches the excuse as to why you're exempt from it pretty heavily
ForsakenOaths 2/4/2024 4:42 PM
Uh, they actively state that “if anyone finds out you’re a mercenary you will be dead before you realize you were discovered.”
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And that you must keep that secret at all times.
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Hello!
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ForsakenOaths
Uh, they actively state that “if anyone finds out you’re a mercenary you will be dead before you realize you were discovered.”
The Arkabs straight up call you a Mercenary. It's piss poor writing and excuses lol.
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Howdy howdy
6:44 PM
Can I ask - how new is this server?
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It was actually kinda hard to find an invite link to get here (edited)
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There's not a link from the Helldivers subreddit for example
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Nor anywhere on the Arrowhead site I could quickly find (edited)
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Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 6:45 PM
Idunno I saw it on the helldivers steam page I think
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I'll see about having it mentioned in the subreddit
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Adraius
Can I ask - how new is this server?
Baskinator 2/4/2024 6:55 PM
This server opened when the game announced in May last year.
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6:56 PM
It's linked on our Steam and socials, and has been linked in some of our marketing materials.
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Adding it to the Helldivers subreddit is at the discretion of the community that runs it. 🙂
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[HS] XXNEONEILXX 2/4/2024 7:22 PM
helldiverthumbs Hi
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hello there
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Jan Hus (Paladin) 2/4/2024 8:07 PM
Hey
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Anyone from Malaysia? helldiverthumbs
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Hyenamancer
Idunno I saw it on the helldivers steam page I think
cognac the barbarian 2/4/2024 8:55 PM
same
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Wan
Anyone from Malaysia? helldiverthumbs
Hyenamancer 2/4/2024 9:05 PM
about 33 million people I think
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Hello
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Mr_Rico705 2/4/2024 9:48 PM
Hey
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Is neat
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Just put in my 4070 ti super today lets go
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ready for launch
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Halo Combat Evolved 2/5/2024 12:28 AM
did the old discord get deleted or something? i couldn't find it in my server list
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Halo Combat Evolved
did the old discord get deleted or something? i couldn't find it in my server list
Jdawg | Hive Lord of Keplar 2/5/2024 12:29 AM
Invite to join a server
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Halo Combat Evolved 2/5/2024 12:29 AM
thanks
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Hey! I’m an English speaker working on my Swedish, and I’m wondering if there’s a Swedish-speaking Helldivers 2 discord server I could join? I figured Helldiving with some Swedes would be a great way to work on the language
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Hey everyone 👋
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Shmath64
Hey! I’m an English speaker working on my Swedish, and I’m wondering if there’s a Swedish-speaking Helldivers 2 discord server I could join? I figured Helldiving with some Swedes would be a great way to work on the language
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 2:31 AM
Go to lfg bruz There’s a Swede one if you scroll down
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Vorox | Combat engineering corps 2/5/2024 5:27 AM
My ground clamp may have blown up on me
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 5:53 AM
@I have eaten many Bile Titans if you aren’t taught through primary socialisation, that water is the most sure fire way of hydration I assure you there will be adults who seek hydration from else where
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Plus if babies aren’t stopped they will continue to try to suckle on breast milk until they are taught otherwise (edited)
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 5:55 AM
Dude there is no hydration but from water (all drinks have water in them)
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you're acting like the default is pathology
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I have eaten many Bile Titans
Dude there is no hydration but from water (all drinks have water in them)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 5:56 AM
But water in its purest form offer the most
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My point is not everything that is taught is propaganda there are objective truths that are taught
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 5:58 AM
Maybe but most Objective truths surround biological imperative, most things past that are educated guesses
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 5:59 AM
Or a wild animal will maul you to death, sure it can be learned from observation but humans can observe things once and pass it on which is the key defining trait of our species, it’s not propaganda for a hunter gatherer to tell their children to say a bear will maul them to death
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I have eaten many Bile Titans
Maybe but most Objective truths surround biological imperative, most things past that are educated guesses
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:01 AM
That is why, it’s not crazy that you can view things fron a different perspective, if you are smart enough to know this then you are definitely smart enough to know the subjectivity of the human experience (edited)
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Or a wild animal will maul you to death, sure it can be learned from observation but humans can observe things once and pass it on which is the key defining trait of our species, it’s not propaganda for a hunter gatherer to tell their children to say a bear will maul them to death
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:01 AM
I'm fairly certain most everyone knows that, again biological fear of death exist in humans past like 3-4
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I have eaten many Bile Titans
I'm fairly certain most everyone knows that, again biological fear of death exist in humans past like 3-4
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:02 AM
Dodos who existed on an island free of humans never learned to be scared of humans and even after humans killed them they still remained friendly which led to their extinction
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Dodos who existed on an island free of humans never learned to be scared of humans and even after humans killed them they still remained friendly which led to their extinction
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:03 AM
truthfully the dodo went extinct do to predators brought to the island accidentally
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:05 AM
Which means biological fear of death from predators isn’t really biological because they evolved in an area free of predation (edited)
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Well it’s biological in the fact that one has to evolve in an area with predation
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:07 AM
No it would mean there is an evolutionary fear of predators, when you have predators and things that kill you.
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if you've ever been around babies you know they are generally weary of strangers and non family members
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I have eaten many Bile Titans
No it would mean there is an evolutionary fear of predators, when you have predators and things that kill you.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:09 AM
Albeit humans at this point if not taught to fear predators will certainly die because despite evolving in a predator rich environment humans have advanced to the point where things need to be taught
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Sure there’s some sense of wariness but if not taught to run from predation it will be too late for a child who doesn’t run at the first instance of a predator
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:10 AM
Well who are most likely to attack you in society, would you go by statistics?
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Well who are most likely to attack you in society, would you go by statistics?
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:11 AM
We are arguing the point that all education is propaganda
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If a child isn’t taught stranger danger they are more likely to trust strangers
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We are arguing the point that all education is propaganda
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:12 AM
Follow me for a second, if i told you certain strangers are more dangerous then others, would that be a lie (edited)
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Follow me for a second, if i told you certain strangers are more dangerous then others, would that be a lie (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:13 AM
A child should be taught all strangers are dangerous and past that point it will become propaganda
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That’s why it’s such a simple term stranger danger with no other nuances
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:13 AM
but you said there are "objective truths" in life, what if i go by the statistics to show who are the most dangerous strangers
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:14 AM
Where are you trying to go with this
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Racism?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:15 AM
Are you calling me one or asking
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:15 AM
I’m asking if we are moving past the topic of discussion which is all education is propaganda which in my case have provided you with several cases where such is not true,
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:17 AM
I am saying education is propaganda, and bringing up how "objective truths" can be used to propagandize people
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I am saying education is propaganda, and bringing up how "objective truths" can be used to propagandize people
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:19 AM
And I have provided you with cases and nuance that disproves that statement, if you move past that point then that’s on you
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Which was “ All education is propaganda”
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I don’t know what kindergartens and High schools you’ve been to that highlight statistically which strangers are more dangerous than others (edited)
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:21 AM
would you like me to be more specific in the age range from 6 and beyond because I'm not buying teaching babies and toddlers not to suckle milk being the bulk of formative education
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would you like me to be more specific in the age range from 6 and beyond because I'm not buying teaching babies and toddlers not to suckle milk being the bulk of formative education
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:23 AM
If you don’t get the fundamentals right, our whole species is doomed
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:24 AM
are we seriously going to consider that the bulk young adults get there view of the world from when is the right time we wean them (i mean that's not even objective either)
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Baskinator 2/5/2024 6:24 AM
I'm going to go out and get some exercise. Just reminding you to continue being civil in your interesting chat here. 🙂
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:24 AM
Let’s take hunter gatherer societies for example, being taught to hunt and sustain yourself while also learning about weaving, clothes making, and finding good locations to make camp isn’t propaganda it was an objective truth until mass farming came into effect (edited)
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That is literally education
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Being taught something
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Let’s take hunter gatherer societies for example, being taught to hunt and sustain yourself while also learning about weaving, clothes making, and finding good locations to make camp isn’t propaganda it was an objective truth until mass farming came into effect (edited)
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:26 AM
of course it was propaganda, every culture believed in different gods and weaved their baskets differently from tradition (edited)
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im also not saying the propaganda is bad
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of course it was propaganda, every culture believed in different gods and weaved their baskets differently from tradition (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:27 AM
And despite that all baskets carried out a similar function no? Let’s be honest they weren’t weaving basket to follow a cultural narrative they were weaving baskets because that’s the only way they know how until they came into contact with other peoples in which case being taught to weave the basket in a certain way becomes propaganda
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
And despite that all baskets carried out a similar function no? Let’s be honest they weren’t weaving basket to follow a cultural narrative they were weaving baskets because that’s the only way they know how until they came into contact with other peoples in which case being taught to weave the basket in a certain way becomes propaganda
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:29 AM
you'd be surprised the culture significance of containers and their traditions
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you'd be surprised the culture significance of containers and their traditions
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:30 AM
Until you come into contact with a way to do it differently the way of your people was the only way which is an objective truth for that tribe which is that spears, baskets, clothes are only made this way
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There’s improvements for sure but there’s no reason until contact with others to change the fundamental design of something
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It isn’t propaganda until there are two variations of something
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Until you come into contact with a way to do it differently the way of your people was the only way which is an objective truth for that tribe which is that spears, baskets, clothes are only made this way
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:31 AM
talk to the Japanese when the Portuguese arrived how they all overnight changed their teaching and traditions
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talk to the Japanese when the Portuguese arrived how they all overnight changed their teaching and traditions
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:32 AM
But before that the education and making of their own designs was the only objective truth there was no?
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MR-SWEETTEA 2/5/2024 6:33 AM
Do you guys plan on putting customization for colors of armor and/or guns?
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Do you guys plan on putting customization for colors of armor and/or guns?
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:33 AM
i Believe not
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talk to the Japanese when the Portuguese arrived how they all overnight changed their teaching and traditions
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:34 AM
Education inherently isn’t propaganda until a different way is presented in which case the preference of teaching it only in the way that is preferred by the educator becomes propaganda (edited)
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Education inherently isn’t propaganda until a different way is presented in which case the preference of teaching it only in the way that is preferred by the educator becomes propaganda (edited)
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:34 AM
Can you really say that only happens when a seperate culture is put into the mix?
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i Believe not
MR-SWEETTEA 2/5/2024 6:35 AM
Not even for future updates I just don’t wanna get hooked on a cool set of armor and then I find a helmet but it’s a completely different color scheme
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Can you really say that only happens when a seperate culture is put into the mix?
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:35 AM
Not even a different culture, even in the same culture if a person comes up with a seperate way to do something and only teaches it that way then it has become preference which is propaganda
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But if there is no other way and only one way that has been taught then that is the objective truth being taught to their people
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Not even for future updates I just don’t wanna get hooked on a cool set of armor and then I find a helmet but it’s a completely different color scheme
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:36 AM
they might ad it far later, but seeing how the armor sets have stats baked in and have been shown with no customization currently, no
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they might ad it far later, but seeing how the armor sets have stats baked in and have been shown with no customization currently, no
MR-SWEETTEA 2/5/2024 6:36 AM
Damn thanks for the info
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Not even a different culture, even in the same culture if a person comes up with a seperate way to do something and only teaches it that way then it has become preference which is propaganda
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:37 AM
Now realize that you are speaking of basically a near impossibly short period in history not relevant today (edited)
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:37 AM
Education isn’t really propaganda until a differing viewpoint is presented and it becomes propaganda to only teach it a certain way
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Education isn’t really propaganda until a differing viewpoint is presented and it becomes propaganda to only teach it a certain way
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:38 AM
That is nearly all modern education though
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Now realize that you are speaking of basically a near impossibly short period in history not relevant today (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:38 AM
It can still be objective if all differing viewpoints are taught simultaneously with no bias to one in which case it is objective
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Bias creates propaganda
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With no bias then it simply is observation
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
It can still be objective if all differing viewpoints are taught simultaneously with no bias to one in which case it is objective
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:39 AM
Thats also next to never happens, Bias is impossible to avoid
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:40 AM
Not impossible no but just very hard
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Not impossible no but just very hard
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:41 AM
tell me have you ever seen or heard of a education system that had no Biases
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tell me have you ever seen or heard of a education system that had no Biases
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:41 AM
Math
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Simple arithmetic
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Math
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:41 AM
i raise you common core
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:42 AM
The more complex something becomes the harder it is to be objective
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:43 AM
But even math can be propagandized
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"The answer is simple: common core state standards math helps kids build critical and analytical skills! If people go through life without questioning the reason behind the existence of things, life becomes pointless, and it is the same for math."
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Now realize that you are speaking of basically a near impossibly short period in history not relevant today (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:44 AM
You can’t say something is irrelevant if it happened, it disproves the blanket statement of all education is propaganda and if you want to continue arguing that point then you will continually have to edit that statement into becoming more and more specific
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:45 AM
that translates to me "Question the objective and subvert the expectations of math"
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
You can’t say something is irrelevant if it happened, it disproves the blanket statement of all education is propaganda and if you want to continue arguing that point then you will continually have to edit that statement into becoming more and more specific
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:46 AM
its irrelovent to a discussion of current education
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:46 AM
I noticed how your “All” have started have more and more conditions such as the melding of two cultures,this period in history, Current education
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In which case it is not all
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It should be “ Education that is of our current period in history where education have become the most complex it’s ever been have been veering into propaganda”
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:48 AM
you cant cherry pick a time period (that probably never existed) to say im wrong (edited)
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you're talking about "oh but what about between the time the first fire was make and grug 2 tried something different"
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:50 AM
l understand your definition of “all” includes several conditions that need to be met and i empathise with you, you are free to continue thinking in such a way because after all human experience is subjective
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you're talking about "oh but what about between the time the first fire was make and grug 2 tried something different"
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:51 AM
The argument of water, fear of predation are also included in this (edited)
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But according to the widely accepted definition of “all” you will have to retract your statement
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But I understand if you feel different
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:52 AM
which I said are biological imperatives which you didnt readily disprove
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which I said are biological imperatives which you didnt readily disprove
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:52 AM
Please reread then
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:53 AM
you made statements about "well what if you existed with no predators" but thats not true of human we evolved with predators including ourselves (edited)
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:53 AM
You said you can’t accept the fact that anything taught before 6 is education
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Another condition
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Baskinator 2/5/2024 6:54 AM
Another nice morning sky
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Another nice morning sky
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:55 AM
Must be nicee
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Another nice morning sky
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:55 AM
I just realised you’ve been up since about 5 am, you are an early bird
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
You said you can’t accept the fact that anything taught before 6 is education
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:56 AM
no I said that you're speaking outside the realm of what could even be defined as education blurring the line between natural knowledge and babies first. which like i stated is still propagandized
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no I said that you're speaking outside the realm of what could even be defined as education blurring the line between natural knowledge and babies first. which like i stated is still propagandized
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:56 AM
Maybe learn more about socialisation which is a form of education
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no I said that you're speaking outside the realm of what could even be defined as education blurring the line between natural knowledge and babies first. which like i stated is still propagandized
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 6:57 AM
If a baby isn’t stopped from consuming breast milk I assure you they will not see water as a hydration source until educated otherwise
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Or food as a source of sustenance
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Which the parents are responsible for feeding and showing an example of to the child
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Which can be considered education
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 6:59 AM
And parents beliefs in when and what to teach their kids to eat is gained from propaganda and taught to their children (edited)
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And parents beliefs in when and what to teach their kids to eat is gained from propaganda and taught to their children (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:00 AM
But the basic fact which is water is for hydration and food is for sustenance, which doesn’t include what type of food it is, is propaganda free education
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But the basic fact which is water is for hydration and food is for sustenance, which doesn’t include what type of food it is, is propaganda free education
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:01 AM
would you get a balanced meal from that logic
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:01 AM
A human being doesn’t need to eat a balanced meal , to survive
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I didn’t say thrive, I said survive
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:03 AM
I mean its a wonderful topic for this discussion, what is the most balanced and health diet and if water is the best what kind
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I mean its a wonderful topic for this discussion, what is the most balanced and health diet and if water is the best what kind
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:03 AM
Leads back to the differing cultures argument
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:03 AM
heres a great bit of propaganda from my youth
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if you're to young to remember this, it is serving per day!
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:06 AM
I don’t get how that relates to parents teaching their children through example that food and water is what humans consume for sustenance
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Which is objective education
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:08 AM
I am giving you a real example of education propaganda related to the consumption of food
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:08 AM
But parents don’t teach that, sure it’s propaganda but it doesn’t really prove that “All education is propaganda”
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
But parents don’t teach that, sure it’s propaganda but it doesn’t really prove that “All education is propaganda”
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:09 AM
Some parents may who knows
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
I just realised you’ve been up since about 5 am, you are an early bird
Baskinator 2/5/2024 7:09 AM
To bed late, up early!
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
But parents don’t teach that, sure it’s propaganda but it doesn’t really prove that “All education is propaganda”
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:09 AM
dude the parents taught that because they were also propagandized into believing that was "healthy"
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To bed late, up early!
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:09 AM
You are something else, but hey if I was in Sweden I’d be giddy to get up too
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dude the parents taught that because they were also propagandized into believing that was "healthy"
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:10 AM
That that was right.
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That that was right.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:10 AM
But the fact that breast milk isn’t meant to be consumed forever and to switch to food and water is objective education
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That pyramid is what kinds of food to consume not the fact that food should be consumed
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But the fact that breast milk isn’t meant to be consumed forever and to switch to food and water is objective education
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:12 AM
find me someone who doesn't know to eat "food" hell if you want to be so abstract about this. Milk has water and food in it why cant you just have that forever
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find me someone who doesn't know to eat "food" hell if you want to be so abstract about this. Milk has water and food in it why cant you just have that forever
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:12 AM
Because mothers can’t produce Breast milk forever?
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Because mothers can’t produce Breast milk forever?
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:13 AM
many actually can if they continue to breast feed
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many actually can if they continue to breast feed
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:13 AM
Functionally how does a mother breast milk 6 children
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Until adults
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find me someone who doesn't know to eat "food" hell if you want to be so abstract about this. Milk has water and food in it why cant you just have that forever
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:14 AM
But that is taught which is objective education
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It’s objective because it teaches the child that what other humans are consuming they can also consume, which is why even if they land in a different culture people know foreign food is “food” because people there eat it
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It’s part of primary socialisation
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Until adults
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:15 AM
Nutrition experts say breast milk of grandmothers is recommended for babies who cannot be breastfed by their biological mothers for whatever reason
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:16 AM
A child who grew up in the wild will not know that what humans are eating is food, they will see a burger but not know that it is consumable
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:16 AM
the human body is wild
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:16 AM
Unless they are taught that they can consume what other humans eat because they watched their parents eat which is education (edited)
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
A child who grew up in the wild will not know that what humans are eating is food, they will see a burger but not know that it is consumable
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:16 AM
you should tell my dog that ate my damn burger before i even got a bite
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you should tell my dog that ate my damn burger before i even got a bite
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:16 AM
A dog isn’t human
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But a dog also has the capability to recognise that what humans are eating is edible because they grew up in the same household
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A dog isn’t human
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:18 AM
lol come on man, the lower intelligence animal knows to eat the burger the the higher intelligence one doesn't
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you should tell my dog that ate my damn burger before i even got a bite
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:18 AM
My cats only eat cat food, I present to them right in front of their nose all of my food, they don’t touch it
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They even run away
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So the dog example doesn’t hold up
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:18 AM
a dog knows meat it seems though
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a dog knows meat it seems though
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:19 AM
Yes just as a human knows meat, but a human born in the wild won’t know a complex dish can be consumed
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Yes just as a human knows meat, but a human born in the wild won’t know a complex dish can be consumed
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:20 AM
can we talk about real isntances of food related propaganda
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instead of mythical wolf men
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instead of mythical wolf men
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:20 AM
They arent mythical
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Your blanket statement of “all” still refuse to hold up under scrutiny
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:21 AM
damn i never knew their were so many
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They arent mythical
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:24 AM
are you really trying to say that there are a common enough number of "wolf raised" people that they make up a reasonable contention to a blanket statement made about society
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:24 AM
Plus if a person isn’t taught to recognise that food and water can be consumed what will they do when their mother or grandmothers passed away?
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Go assault random women ?
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Plus if a person isn’t taught to recognise that food and water can be consumed what will they do when their mother or grandmothers passed away?
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:25 AM
I was making a joke
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:25 AM
No because that human will be educated objectively by outside parties that breast milk isn’t the only form of sustenance
7:26 AM
But educated nonetheless
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
No because that human will be educated objectively by outside parties that breast milk isn’t the only form of sustenance
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:26 AM
can you even call inference Education
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:26 AM
Yes
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Because you learn something
7:27 AM
Which you are “educated” on
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:27 AM
"the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university."
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"the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university."
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:28 AM
Then you have found that subjectivity matters
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:28 AM
what
7:30 AM
what even is your point of contention that most education is propaganda but not all?
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what even is your point of contention that most education is propaganda but not all?
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:30 AM
“not really, thats generally a term used by people to subvert something and change it to their own desire”
7:30 AM
Your words
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what even is your point of contention that most education is propaganda but not all?
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:30 AM
I wouldn’t have contended you if you used most
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:31 AM
yes that was in reference to "All art is subjective"
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"the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university."
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:31 AM
This definition by your own words that “all education is propaganda” can also be said to be propaganda and subjective
7:32 AM
And you used that subjective propagandised definition to suit what you consider to be education
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
This definition by your own words that “all education is propaganda” can also be said to be propaganda and subjective
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:32 AM
Yes I and you were Propagandized
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:33 AM
Therefore your view that “all education is propaganda is now moot”
7:33 AM
But then again as I’ve said earlier you’re allowed to think that
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:34 AM
how do you come to that logic
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:35 AM
I have provided examples and thought out rebuttals to “all education is propaganda” do with that information what you will and if you remain to have the same view point , c’est la vie
7:36 AM
I’m busy I cannot accomodate you further, I urge you to rethink what you have said but if not life goes on
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
I have provided examples and thought out rebuttals to “all education is propaganda” do with that information what you will and if you remain to have the same view point , c’est la vie
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:37 AM
Its very hard to rebut a blanket statement, that's why I didn't try and rebut you on "all art is subjective" (edited)
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:38 AM
Think deeply on the examples I provided
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I’m busy I cannot accomodate you further, I urge you to rethink what you have said but if not life goes on
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:38 AM
you don't need to be passive aggressive and talk down to me
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:39 AM
Did what I say indicate any form of passive aggressiveness ?
7:40 AM
Accomodate in my option is polite
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:40 AM
Yes, you are attempting to talk to me as if you are some "professor" the "class dismissed" type of passive aggressive (edited)
7:41 AM
I'm not sure if you realize you did that but in the future, dont
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I'm not sure if you realize you did that but in the future, dont
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:42 AM
Or what
7:42 AM
Jks
7:42 AM
I hope this have been fruitful for you
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Hey everyone! 🙂
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:44 AM
Thanks for entertaining me and I hope you consider the things I’ve said and ultimately I really hope you don’t continue have such a pessimistic view on art (edited)
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:44 AM
Not in anymore of a way then an activity to pass the time. I think you were far to much invested in finding a specific situation however minute to disprove a blanket statement instead of have a more interesting talk about how education and propaganda go hand in hand (edited)
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Not in anymore of a way then an activity to pass the time. I think you were far to much invested in finding a specific situation however minute to disprove a blanket statement instead of have a more interesting talk about how education and propaganda go hand in hand (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:45 AM
I’ve only disproved your “all” I’ve never indicated in my arguments that education is free of propaganda, however I have indicated that it can be free of it (edited)
7:46 AM
To be sure of something you cannot brush over the minute details and possibilities of something because a small hole in the foundation can leave the house a lot more unstable
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I’ve only disproved your “all” I’ve never indicated in my arguments that education is free of propaganda, however I have indicated that it can be free of it (edited)
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:46 AM
My All wasn't even that hard of a framing, but you forced me into a position of talking about monkey men
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My All wasn't even that hard of a framing, but you forced me into a position of talking about monkey men
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:47 AM
I suggested a fix for that if you want to add conditions to your statements then write a more specific statement in the first place
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
I suggested a fix for that if you want to add conditions to your statements then write a more specific statement in the first place
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:48 AM
I dont feel there is a way to ask you a question without sounding rude (edited)
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I dont feel there is a way to ask you a question without sounding rude (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:49 AM
Me sounding rude or you sounding rude
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:49 AM
me sounding rude
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:50 AM
Dude don’t overthink it, don’t make blanket statements that’s all
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:51 AM
that's what i'm trying to say do you struggle to talk to people when they make any blanket statement (edited)
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that's what i'm trying to say do you struggle to talk to people when they make any blanket statement (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:51 AM
No I will just argue the blanket statement
7:52 AM
Because blanket statements ignore the spectrum of life
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
No I will just argue the blanket statement
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:52 AM
i mean then you do, because what do you want me to say "99.9% of education is blahblahblah"
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i mean then you do, because what do you want me to say "99.9% of education is blahblahblah"
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:53 AM
Don’t do percentages just be more specific
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JoEmpTitan | Omegon ω 2/5/2024 7:54 AM
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:54 AM
Modern education in any country with a government interested in Nationalism or homogeneity will have propaganda
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:55 AM
for a man who thinks definitions are liquid and subjective, you sure do want people to be more defined
7:56 AM
or mayber that wasnt you that was awhile ago
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for a man who thinks definitions are liquid and subjective, you sure do want people to be more defined
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 7:57 AM
Im just against blanket statements, I would get rid of them
7:57 AM
Because that line of thinking leads to dark places
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Im just against blanket statements, I would get rid of them
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 7:57 AM
you said "all art is subjective" ....
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you said "all art is subjective" ....
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:00 AM
I’ve searched in off topic for that statement and I can’t seem to find it (edited)
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:01 AM
it was before in general or someone said close to that
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:01 AM
Someone else perhaps I can’t search in general
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:02 AM
or the statement was maid "Art is subjective" but that would encompass All art
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:02 AM
Imagine the person that said that and make a rebuttal in the form of a case study or present cases in which art wouldn’t be subjective i too am interested
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Perhaps you who have the opposite view of it maybe be able to find flaws in that statement because I hate blanket statements and would love to see the flaws in “all art is subjective”
8:04 AM
You find the holes and I’ll try to find a way to patch them if there are any
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:05 AM
Well “Art” isn’t subjective, art is any medium creation which goal it is to provoke “thought”
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Art can be viewed subjectively, but if definitions were subjective they would have no meaning.
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Well “Art” isn’t subjective, art is any medium creation which goal it is to provoke “thought”
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:05 AM
Would you say the cavemen who made caves paintings wanted to provoke thought or would they have liked to leave something behind that marks their existence
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We’ll never know I guess
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:06 AM
Well I also said entertainment isn’t Art
8:07 AM
It can have artistic qualities but entertainment exists to have fun (though you could broaden that to challenges and what not for games and sports)
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It can have artistic qualities but entertainment exists to have fun (though you could broaden that to challenges and what not for games and sports)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:08 AM
But what about movies of tragedy or games about trauma, would you say they provoke thought or they provide fun
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Or to highlight a certain persons experience of trauma and loss
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So you too can feel and understand what they have gone through
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:09 AM
I think there is a gradient, maybe you could define things from “high art” to “low entertainment”
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:11 AM
Can’t something be both entertainment and also provoke thought ?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:11 AM
Like I said “you don’t go to a Colosseum to think as much as you don’t go to a gallery to watch someone bleed”
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
Can’t something be both entertainment and also provoke thought ?
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:12 AM
Maybe but I think you can agree trying to focus on both would strain and break most peoples skills.
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Like I said “you don’t go to a Colosseum to think as much as you don’t go to a gallery to watch someone bleed”
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:13 AM
But that depends on the person no? A thinker will go to a colosseum and have some wonderful insights and if a fighter goes to the gallery they will gather nothing from it
8:15 AM
Let’s say for example this war of mine, It might be because of who I am but when I played it when I was younger, I didn’t really feel fun rather I felt the weight responsibility and gathered thoughts about war and civilian causalities
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်)
But that depends on the person no? A thinker will go to a colosseum and have some wonderful insights and if a fighter goes to the gallery they will gather nothing from it
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:15 AM
Haha wouldn’t the thinker just try and reason the colosseum is art for what ever pretentious reason or scoff at it as “low brow”
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Haha wouldn’t the thinker just try and reason the colosseum is art for what ever pretentious reason or scoff at it as “low brow”
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:16 AM
The depends on the open mindedness of the thinker and their background jno?
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:25 AM
Maybe Games and entertainment can be art to those who make it to be and it can overtly be art if the creators themselves deem it as such? I think we’d have to go down the rabbit hole of what counts as a game tho, is interactivity what makes a game ? The control ? The hardware on which you use to access it ?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:27 AM
Well generally I think games are any activity that are created for entertainment and have a win loss factor
8:28 AM
Much like sports but sports imply physical activity
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:28 AM
What is your definition of art then
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Much like sports but sports imply physical activity
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:29 AM
Would Dance be an art form ? Or a sport ?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:30 AM
Well Dance can me a sport an entertainment activity or a form of art.
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:31 AM
Can’t games be the same?
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Video games
8:32 AM
Because it involves a creator who designs spaces, objects and simulated life forms
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Aren’t the creators the artists and we the enjoyers of the art ?
8:33 AM
A game is born from concept art and ideas no? (edited)
8:33 AM
Wouldn’t the villages, characters, biomes etc be the art ?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:34 AM
I think games struggle to be art, simply do the fact of how interactive they are (edited)
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:35 AM
Wouldn’t interactivity elevate it ?
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Let’s say an Artists paints a town
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You can only see it that way
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:35 AM
Not really because think if you could draw a mustache on the Mona Lesa (edited)
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Not really because think if you could draw a mustache on the Mona Lesa (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:36 AM
Wdym
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If a game designer creates a town much like the artist it is elevated because you can walk through it, hear it, see it in 3 dimensions
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:37 AM
Well let’s me use something more movie based for clearer messages. Saving private Ryan a movie about the worth of human life, if you say could save everyone in the film wouldn’t that water down and message the artistic factors could have had
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If a game designer creates a town much like the artist it is elevated because you can walk through it, hear it, see it in 3 dimensions
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:38 AM
We also see that the most “artistic” games are the most linear.
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We also see that the most “artistic” games are the most linear.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:39 AM
Isn’t a painting one dimensional?
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In a painting you can encapsulate a theme in one frame
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In a game you have to encapsulate a theme over how ever many hours it lasts
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:40 AM
I mean in the story (linear), like the last of us, you can’t interact however you please, it plays much like a movie
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I mean in the story (linear), like the last of us, you can’t interact however you please, it plays much like a movie
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:41 AM
You don’t consider movies to be art yes?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:41 AM
Like I said they can move on a spectrum but I think most movies the majority of people watch lean on entertainment.
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There are art films though
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Like I said they can move on a spectrum but I think most movies the majority of people watch lean on entertainment.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:43 AM
Doesn’t a movie or game have to be attention catching the same way a painting has to catch the eye?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:44 AM
Does a painting have to be attention catching, Mutch of art is it’s subtleties (edited)
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Does a painting have to be attention catching, Mutch of art is it’s subtleties (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:46 AM
But a paintings popularity is decided upon by its ability to generate buzz through conveying a theme/message
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It catches attention based on how much it’s talked about and analysed right
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:47 AM
But to my previous point an artist has a message, they want that to ring through their piece, often getting pleasure in never truly explaining things. If I could walk up and paint over his piece I would suppose my “vision” over his and destroy what message he made.
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But to my previous point an artist has a message, they want that to ring through their piece, often getting pleasure in never truly explaining things. If I could walk up and paint over his piece I would suppose my “vision” over his and destroy what message he made.
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:48 AM
Can’t a game have a subtle message which is up to interpretation ? Some games leave their message very subtly too
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It catches attention based on how much it’s talked about and analysed right
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:48 AM
Well it’s sold on why you should “invest” in this dead man’s art, often regaling how “weird” the artist was.
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Can’t a game have a subtle message which is up to interpretation ? Some games leave their message very subtly too
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:49 AM
Yes but you have to decrease the level of interactivity
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Are you old enough to remember the “walking sims” of the mid 2010’s
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Yes but you have to decrease the level of interactivity
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:51 AM
But then painting is attributed as art without needing to be interactive and solely upon its ability to convey a message ?
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I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:53 AM
Not necessarily but often the few “art” pieces that were interactive were to show some quality of humanity
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Not necessarily but often the few “art” pieces that were interactive were to show some quality of humanity
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 8:56 AM
Do you agree that game design allows the creator an even wider array tools and capabilities to create art even more so than paintings ?
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I’m reminded of this “art” more social experiment that was very interactive
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Do you agree that game design allows the creator an even wider array tools and capabilities to create art even more so than paintings ?
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 8:58 AM
You didn’t answer my question before do you know the genre “walking sims”
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 9:00 AM
Bro how old do you think I am
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I been gaming since the ps1
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Do you agree that game design allows the creator an even wider array tools and capabilities to create art even more so than paintings ?
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 9:00 AM
I’ll use this analogy, I can be the smartest and most well spoken person in the room but if every time I try and say something you talk over me, no one will ever know it. Do you get what I’m trying to say? (edited)
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I’ll use this analogy, I can be the smartest and most well spoken person in the room but if every time I try and say something you talk over me, no one will ever know it. Do you get what I’m trying to say? (edited)
PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 9:02 AM
Do you send several sentences with follow up? Can’t you send the whole thing in one paragraph
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Do you send several sentences with follow up? Can’t you send the whole thing in one paragraph
I have eaten many Bile Titans 2/5/2024 9:08 AM
I was trying ask a question that was pertinent, and continue where you left off. But do you get what I mean?
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PBR(ရိုင်ရန်) 2/5/2024 10:33 AM
Brb I got somewhere to be
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hello guys just wanna ask, will helldiver run like min 60 fps at med setting on I5 gen 12th RTX 3050?
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Will hell divers 2 be a difficult game to 100% the achievements or trophies?
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ReaperYouApart 2/5/2024 11:37 AM
to hell we dive so that super earth may thrive
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Reginald Longbutt 2/5/2024 12:20 PM
Hello, everybody! what is going on in your world?
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Apparently it's raining a lot
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Hyenamancer 2/5/2024 12:36 PM
Cozy
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Hyenamancer 2/5/2024 12:44 PM
Creeepy, but it’s built to withstand that sorta stuff
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at night at work I have to go to the very top floor of a hotel building and it does a lot of those sorta noises if there’s a storm outside
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always freaks me out
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RadCrusher 2/5/2024 1:36 PM
@Baskinator May I suggest putting this in the #hd2-announcements so if people ask for local time for release we can direct people there? 2/8/2024 9:00 AM <t:1707382800> It is a timestamp which will automatically adjust to the local time. Here is a link with more info and options. https://gist.github.com/LeviSnoot/d9147767abeef2f770e9ddcd91eb85aa
Discord Timestamp Syntax. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
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⌚Grimwell 2/5/2024 1:36 PM
Hey
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RadCrusher
@Baskinator May I suggest putting this in the #hd2-announcements so if people ask for local time for release we can direct people there? 2/8/2024 9:00 AM <t:1707382800> It is a timestamp which will automatically adjust to the local time. Here is a link with more info and options. https://gist.github.com/LeviSnoot/d9147767abeef2f770e9ddcd91eb85aa
Baskinator 2/5/2024 1:38 PM
Yeah, we have it in the FAQ, but I can add it to the map post. 🙂
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Yeah, we have it in the FAQ, but I can add it to the map post. 🙂
RadCrusher 2/5/2024 1:39 PM
Oh neat, I didn't see it 😅
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Dupeskupes 2/5/2024 2:22 PM
why they so eyes
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AtliPrime 2/5/2024 2:24 PM
Hello there. Just pre-purchased H2 on Steam. Looking forward to laying waste to the xenoscourge and accidentally nuking the odd teammate.
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MrBlahboi 2/5/2024 2:40 PM
hola
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oh im glad it releases at 9am my time in uk - doesnt feel like a wasted day off work now
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gideonkain 2/5/2024 3:09 PM
So pumped!
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Bored_G_Ames 2/5/2024 4:42 PM
Been a long time coming, looking forward to my service to super earth and spreading freedom and democracy to the rest of the galaxy!!
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Vrânkën 2/5/2024 6:43 PM
Hello ! Happy to be able to play all along Thursday afternoon ! Aren't you ?
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staffyfps 2/5/2024 7:33 PM
hello looking forward to the game coming up
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zerox I Titan of Supremacy 2/5/2024 7:36 PM
hello whos ready for democracy
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hype
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thirsty 2.0 2/5/2024 7:52 PM
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Twan From Tinder 2/5/2024 7:53 PM
how does the weight of armor effect gameplay? ive been trying to find out with no luck